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hi mozart. long time no see you here. sorry it is under such anxious circumstances.

i have heard many different ideas of the karmic value of suicide. and i have even read stuff that makes me question the very existance of karma so i am not going to comment on that as i am sure others would know better.

first of all, there are crisis centers that will admit him and hold him for a minimum of 72 hours. don't hesitate to call 911 if you think he is gonna do it. i have been through these crisis centers before and it was very helpful. there was nothing better for me when i was feeling miserable then to be around other miserable people. i am pretty sure all states have the same sort of thing.

sounds like your friend is going through a "dark night of his soul". this presents your friend with what is probably the biggest challenge of his life. i have felt this utter sense of pain and regret. emotional, physical, and mental bankrupcy.

if i was in your shoes i would try to embolden your friend. don't let him take the easy way out of the situation. he is not the first or the last person that something like this has happened to. if he makes it out of this, it will serve as a blessing in which he does the most spiritual growth. but telling someone that in the throes of a tragic situation is not adviseable.

i don't know what he squandered his money on but if it was drugs or alcohol or gambling or women then the "anonymous" groups are great for stuff like that (aa, ga, na, sa). he will find comfort in the stories of other people who have gone through the same sort catostrophic mistakes.

embolden him. make him put on his man pants and stand up to this challenge. and try to make him see this as an opportunity for growth. i believe things like this happen for a reason. hold his hand for the moment if you have too. he will get over the initial acute sickening pain of the situation in time and he just needs to get through this crisis stage. so sleep next to that man if you have to, to be sure that he doesn't do it. that is what i would do if i was in your shoes.

maybe this story would bring some comfort to your friend:

during my interview with him, the man told me about a terrible incident that occurred when he was younger. he was attacked in an alley in a large city, stabbed repeatedly by a gang, and then left for dead. he managed to crawl out to the street where someone found him and took him to the hospital. he almost died and remained in the hospital for quite a while recuperating. one of the things he wanted to know during our session was the purpose of the horrible experience. why did it happen? during the session, when i contacted the subconscious and asked it that question, the answer was very surprising. it said, "oh, that was a group of his friends who volunteered to help him." i thought, with friends like that, who needs enemies! it didn't seem the type of thing a friend would do!

the subconscious explained that it had all been orchestrated from the other side. the man's life was going in the wrong direction, and he was not going to be able to get back on his path without drastic action that would turn his life around. there had been many subtle attempts to get his attention, and when these did not work, the attack was arranged. drastic, dramatic, unexplainable, yes, but it shows the extremes the universe will go to in order to turn someone's life around without having them physically exit this world. or this one:

http://divinecosmos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10990

good luck to you and your friend. i am listening to one of dw's radio shows where he mentioned that these times will push your buttons. in fact, that is what these times are meant to do. it sounds like your friend's buttons are definitely being pushed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/dark_night_of_the_soul