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**JonatonM** · 10-29-2010, 06:05 AM

killing holds great karma whether it is of someone else or yourself. it is still killing. the belief that you can end your suffering by 'ending it all' is a distortion of thought because your spirit never dies and lives on with the karma of the choice to kill which is always distorted no matter what. in a free will universe we all have the choice to kill ourselves but it is not advised. the desire to kill ourselves comes from not facing an issue we are really needing to resolve. fear and disbelief that things can get better are almost always why one feels suicidal. in other words, they have cast off their own sovereign nature to create their experience.

it is important to acknowledge that many are predestined to lose their material wealth as preparation for the 2012 event. the fear of losing material possessions will make it difficult to ascend. so certain events are put into place to experience loss of wealth if we have great attachments to it as preparation. in other words, there is a silver lining in an experience like this. we will be ascending in 2012 so some of us are meant to have hard life lessons like this for the purpose of letting go of our attachments (aka distorted beliefs).

10-29-2010, 06:05 AM	#21
JonatonM Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	killing holds great karma whether it is of someone else or yourself. it is still killing. the belief that you can end your suffering by 'ending it all' is a distortion of thought because your spirit never dies and lives on with the karma of the choice to kill which is always distorted no matter what. in a free will universe we all have the choice to kill ourselves but it is not advised. the desire to kill ourselves comes from not facing an issue we are really needing to resolve. fear and disbelief that things can get better are almost always why one feels suicidal. in other words, they have cast off their own sovereign nature to create their experience. it is important to acknowledge that many are predestined to lose their material wealth as preparation for the 2012 event. the fear of losing material possessions will make it difficult to ascend. so certain events are put into place to experience loss of wealth if we have great attachments to it as preparation. in other words, there is a silver lining in an experience like this. we will be ascending in 2012 so some of us are meant to have hard life lessons like this for the purpose of letting go of our attachments (aka distorted beliefs).
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