Shri Kunjuppu, May I beg to differ from you in respect of your observation "works by rajaji, radhakrishnan, kannadasan and (of late) discourses by (ex tamil actor) shiva kumar or vishaka hari, whom i came to know only recently, there is absolute devotion and commitment there, and as a practising hindu, i love to read and hear these." Smt. Visakha Hariis, in my opinion, no way different from the orthodoxy here which I and probably you also criticize. If we take VH's certificate of hinduism as something of value, then, honestly, we lose our moral stand to criticize the blind orthodoxy. Rajaji falls in the same category, imo but Radhakrishnan being a philosopher has a different approach though, he also tries not to tread on the toes of the orthodox believers except when compelled by his scholastic opinion. I am not familiar with the works of kannadasan or shivakumar and so I reserve my judgment.