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**Farson** · 09-20-2011, 07:00 AM

So if you ask me "Am I a Hindu".
My true and sincere answer will be No.Why do I need a lable to realize God?
I am sure God gave us the Vedas for benefit of mankind and not to create sects and subsects.

I appreciate your understanding about the greatness of vedic wisdom. As you mentioned there are two things, Vedic scriptures are based on dharma but such dharma itself is God centred. Though Buddhists, Jains or carvakas etc have taken the dharmic essence of Vedas as the background of their philosophy, they simply rejected its authority on the Existence of Vedic Gods and even Brahman. In that case, any follower of ONLY dharma and NOT its Practices, should ascribe to either Buddhism or other eastern/Indian philosophy, and not Hinduism.

The moment you say Karma Yogi or Jnana Yogi, such karma and Jnana becomes rooted on the realization that our Individual Self is subservient to that Highest SuperSoul called Brahman/Vedic God. For Example, If someone says, I use the Jnana of Vedas and neither follow its Practices (Karman) nor believe in those gods, then they should become a Buddhist and follow its dharma purely based on meditation. Atleast we will then have definitive Set of Hindus, who are devoted to Vedic Understanding .

Such mis-interpretation of Vedic understanding on one's own terms, and not practising its basic tenets, becomes contagious and spoil the good-will of the devoted/religious hindus. I would call a religious dalit, my better hindu counterpart, than a Brahmin who is either a nonbeliever of Vedas or non-practitioner of vedic religion (atleast in its basics). I would partake prasAdam in a Hare Krishna Sudra devotee's house than in a Brahmins' who is simply arrogant and lacks humility to Vedic Gods. The one who has the devotion and conviction in Vedic Principles and Gods together is a Hindu. Period. By Hindu, everyone should be a Vedic believer, but they should eventually become a Vedic Practitioner!

Hinduism or Vedic Religion is not based upon headcount, but solely exists on its few faithful followers. So. Those who don't accept Vedic authority, even if they are Brahmins, should change their faith to other closest philosophies, and call themselves as 'Buddhist', 'Atheist' or 'Zist' and rid of their birth identities (Brahmin, Kshatriya etc..), so that they don't mislead other religious Hindus. Quite a lot of DK parties claimed themselves as Athiest, which was very helpful.

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Farson Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 538 Senior Member	So if you ask me "Am I a Hindu". My true and sincere answer will be No.Why do I need a lable to realize God? I am sure God gave us the Vedas for benefit of mankind and not to create sects and subsects. I appreciate your understanding about the greatness of vedic wisdom. As you mentioned there are two things, Vedic scriptures are based on dharma but such dharma itself is God centred. Though Buddhists, Jains or carvakas etc have taken the dharmic essence of Vedas as the background of their philosophy, they simply rejected its authority on the Existence of Vedic Gods and even Brahman. In that case, any follower of ONLY dharma and NOT its Practices, should ascribe to either Buddhism or other eastern/Indian philosophy, and not Hinduism. The moment you say Karma Yogi or Jnana Yogi, such karma and Jnana becomes rooted on the realization that our Individual Self is subservient to that Highest SuperSoul called Brahman/Vedic God. For Example, If someone says, I use the Jnana of Vedas and neither follow its Practices (Karman) nor believe in those gods, then they should become a Buddhist and follow its dharma purely based on meditation. Atleast we will then have definitive Set of Hindus, who are devoted to Vedic Understanding . Such mis-interpretation of Vedic understanding on one's own terms, and not practising its basic tenets, becomes contagious and spoil the good-will of the devoted/religious hindus. I would call a religious dalit, my better hindu counterpart, than a Brahmin who is either a nonbeliever of Vedas or non-practitioner of vedic religion (atleast in its basics). I would partake prasAdam in a Hare Krishna Sudra devotee's house than in a Brahmins' who is simply arrogant and lacks humility to Vedic Gods. The one who has the devotion and conviction in Vedic Principles and Gods together is a Hindu. Period. By Hindu, everyone should be a Vedic believer, but they should eventually become a Vedic Practitioner! Hinduism or Vedic Religion is not based upon headcount, but solely exists on its few faithful followers. So. Those who don't accept Vedic authority, even if they are Brahmins, should change their faith to other closest philosophies, and call themselves as 'Buddhist', 'Atheist' or 'Zist' and rid of their birth identities (Brahmin, Kshatriya etc..), so that they don't mislead other religious Hindus. Quite a lot of DK parties claimed themselves as Athiest, which was very helpful.
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