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**zlopikanikanz** · 11-04-2009, 02:49 AM

THE FACT ABOUT INDRA i HAVE GATHERED FROM READING SEVERAL BOOKS ON HINDU mYTHOLOGY, THE PURANAS AND SEEING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CULTURE IN A RATIONAL MANNER
Siva was definetely not a Vedic God.THe Rudras were there in the Vedic times and it evolved into Siva.
I feel that prioe to the vedic people there must have been some kind of phalic (linga worship) worship.This was nit liked by the Vedic people.In fact (I do not recollect correctly now who) Indra or one of the Vedic Devas were reerred to as sisira nasyahah meaning destroyer of lingas
The Dhasha Yanja episode itself is to bring Siva into the Vedic fold and give himea shre of the Havir
Vishnu as now we know was not in the Vedas.There is an indirect reference to the Vamana Avataram by the saying he measured the three worlds with his foot steps

Shri Pbkhema Ji,

This article on wiki says Vishnu is mentioned 93 times in the vedas: Vishnu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The three strides of Vaman Purana, it seems, also appears in Vishnu Sukta of the Rig, as mentioned in the wiki article on Vishnu.

It also seems that Rudra became synonymous with Shiva during the time of the itihaasas. And looks like the period of itihasas (period when ramayana was written) predated that of the atharva: Indian epic poetry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Interesting indeed.

And more interesting is that Rudra is described as the father of the storm gods, Maruts in the Rig: Shiva - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (i must go find for that verse in the rig).

So it looks like Rudra and Shiva (as the one associated with Parvati, Ganesha, Karthikeya) are likely to be two different entities.

Regards.

11-04-2009, 02:49 AM	#30
zlopikanikanz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 625 Senior Member	THE FACT ABOUT INDRA i HAVE GATHERED FROM READING SEVERAL BOOKS ON HINDU mYTHOLOGY, THE PURANAS AND SEEING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CULTURE IN A RATIONAL MANNER Siva was definetely not a Vedic God.THe Rudras were there in the Vedic times and it evolved into Siva. I feel that prioe to the vedic people there must have been some kind of phalic (linga worship) worship.This was nit liked by the Vedic people.In fact (I do not recollect correctly now who) Indra or one of the Vedic Devas were reerred to *as sisira* nasyahah meaning destroyer of lingas The Dhasha Yanja episode itself is to bring Siva into the Vedic fold and give himea shre of the Havir Vishnu as now we know was not in the Vedas.There is an indirect reference to the Vamana Avataram by the saying he measured the three worlds with his foot steps Shri Pbkhema Ji, This article on wiki says Vishnu is mentioned 93 times in the vedas: Vishnu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The three strides of Vaman Purana, it seems, also appears in Vishnu Sukta of the Rig, as mentioned in the wiki article on Vishnu. It also seems that Rudra became synonymous with Shiva during the time of the itihaasas. And looks like the period of itihasas (period when ramayana was written) predated that of the atharva: Indian epic poetry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Interesting indeed. And more interesting is that Rudra is described as the father of the storm gods, Maruts in the Rig: Shiva - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (i must go find for that verse in the rig). So it looks like Rudra and Shiva (as the one associated with Parvati, Ganesha, Karthikeya) are likely to be two different entities. Regards.
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