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**Emalodoulouts** · 07-17-2006, 03:52 AM

Dear Sri Anbu,

I agree with the point in your first paragraph. Great interpretation.

The "method" of Prajapathi's extraction that you explain is somewhat vague. "What is it that makes the worlds important?" could mean different things to different people. So I don't see how the answer "came" "easily". To use your own example, 'Who made the Maurya Dynasty important?" - your answer is Ashoka. But my answer would be ChandraGupta Maurya, the first king of the Dynasty and Chanakya's disciple.

The reasoning in your third paragraph, to me at least, spirals into a different direction. I will first summarize what you wrote and then write my opinion.

Gods-Vedas-Trimurthis-Vyahritis-Gunas-Brahman this, according to you, is the linearity of the order of importance.

Gods are important because the Vedas say so.

Vedas are important because the Trimurthis (I am assuming this is Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) said so through their Vyahritis.

Vyahritis are important because three types of Gunas drive them.

But Gunas don't exist without the Brahman.

So Brahman is the essence of all.

Let me try an analogy.

Gandhi was important because the British said so.

The British were important because the press said so.

The press is important because it is driven by ideals of peace, freedom and democracy.

But these ideals do not exist without love.

So love is the essence of all.

If all that we had to know was that Gandhi was powered by love why are all the intermediaries important?

Applying the same question to your point,

If all that we had to know was that the Gods were powered by Brahman why are all of the intermediaries important?

NOTES ON MY FIRST MUSING:

The curiosity to know the origin of the universe is as old as the human beings so the first person to raise the question has to be Prajapathi son of Brahma. The answer that Brahma gives out is important for it sets out the fundamental nature of the creation viz. that He is the creation. This is unlike the Genesis of the Bible (that remains the basic belief of the Jews, the Christians and the Muslims on creation) where the Creator sets himself as apart from the creation. So here we have two contrasting notions of God and His role.

Secondly the method set out by Prajapathi is the efficient means of extracting the essence and discarding the chaff. Take for example his first extraction. He raised the question: What is it that makes the worlds important. The answer easily came as the Gods that rule the worlds. To give an example, let’s ask the question who made Mauryan dynasty important. The answer easily is Ashoka.

Again the question of is why the Gods are important. Because the Vedas extol them. So Vedas became the essence of the three Gods of the worlds. Why the Vedas are important? Because they were given by the Trimurthis through the utterings called Vyahrithis. So the great Vyahrithis became the essence. Why are the Vyahrithis so important? Because they were brought out by the three Gunas that remained the driving force of the Trimurthis. Without Brahman, the one without a second, nothing exists and so Brahman is the Aathma of all.

07-17-2006, 03:52 AM	#19
Emalodoulouts Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 421 Senior Member	Dear Sri Anbu, I agree with the point in your first paragraph. Great interpretation. The "method" of Prajapathi's extraction that you explain is somewhat vague. "What is it that makes the worlds important?" could mean different things to different people. So I don't see how the answer "came" "easily". To use your own example, 'Who made the Maurya Dynasty important?" - your answer is Ashoka. But my answer would be ChandraGupta Maurya, the first king of the Dynasty and Chanakya's disciple. The reasoning in your third paragraph, to me at least, spirals into a different direction. I will first summarize what you wrote and then write my opinion. Gods-Vedas-Trimurthis-Vyahritis-Gunas-Brahman this, according to you, is the linearity of the order of importance. Gods are important because the Vedas say so. Vedas are important because the Trimurthis (I am assuming this is Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) said so through their Vyahritis. Vyahritis are important because three types of Gunas drive them. But Gunas don't exist without the Brahman. So Brahman is the essence of all. Let me try an analogy. Gandhi was important because the British said so. The British were important because the press said so. The press is important because it is driven by ideals of peace, freedom and democracy. But these ideals do not exist without love. So love is the essence of all. If all that we had to know was that Gandhi was powered by love why are all the intermediaries important? Applying the same question to your point, If all that we had to know was that the Gods were powered by Brahman why are all of the intermediaries important? NOTES ON MY FIRST MUSING: The curiosity to know the origin of the universe is as old as the human beings so the first person to raise the question has to be Prajapathi son of Brahma. The answer that Brahma gives out is important for it sets out the fundamental nature of the creation viz. that He is the creation. This is unlike the Genesis of the Bible (that remains the basic belief of the Jews, the Christians and the Muslims on creation) where the Creator sets himself as apart from the creation. So here we have two contrasting notions of God and His role. Secondly the method set out by Prajapathi is the efficient means of extracting the essence and discarding the chaff. Take for example his first extraction. He raised the question: What is it that makes the worlds important. The answer easily came as the Gods that rule the worlds. To give an example, let’s ask the question who made Mauryan dynasty important. The answer easily is Ashoka. Again the question of is why the Gods are important. Because the Vedas extol them. So Vedas became the essence of the three Gods of the worlds. Why the Vedas are important? Because they were given by the Trimurthis through the utterings called Vyahrithis. So the great Vyahrithis became the essence. Why are the Vyahrithis so important? Because they were brought out by the three Gunas that remained the driving force of the Trimurthis. Without Brahman, the one without a second, nothing exists and so Brahman is the Aathma of all.
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