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**expabsPapsgag** · 01-18-2007, 05:24 PM

Neither Ramdoss nor thirumavalavan created castes.

Both of them started parties for their respective castes,because they felt that their castes were backward. When they opposed each other,it automatically happened that the fight between two parties became fight between two castes.For example in the Hindu cite you had given,they have written about chidambaram violence against dalits in 1999.At that election thiruma contested from chidambaram and ponnusamy from PMk opposed him.electoral clashes emerged and when PMK attacked dalith panthers members,it automatically became vanniyars attacking dalits.

I am not arguing that Ramdoss did not do caste based politics.I would only say that caste based politics arose because there are castes. Caste based fights arise because there are castes. When two caste based parties are strong in same area and they become rivals,naturally there will be caste wars.

After allying with thiruma,the situation in northern districts is far better. Although it hasnt absolutely stopped the violence between these two castes, in long run we can hope that it happens.

Ramdoss indeed ask for a seperate tamilnadu.But he did so because his party is strong in northern districts.And his party is strong in northern districts because it is vanniyar belt.And since 99.99% of his partymen are vanniyars,only a vanniyar can become CM. So this is a chicken first or egg first type of problem.

Some time back,you asked for seperate union territory for brahmins, so I guess there is nothing wrong in such demands.And naturally if such a union territor emerges,I guess that only a brahmin will become chief minister

But after allying with thiruma,ramdoss said 'If PMK captures power,thambi thiruma will become CM"

01-18-2007, 05:24 PM	#21
expabsPapsgag Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 359 Senior Member	Neither Ramdoss nor thirumavalavan created castes. Both of them started parties for their respective castes,because they felt that their castes were backward. When they opposed each other,it automatically happened that the fight between two parties became fight between two castes.For example in the Hindu cite you had given,they have written about chidambaram violence against dalits in 1999.At that election thiruma contested from chidambaram and ponnusamy from PMk opposed him.electoral clashes emerged and when PMK attacked dalith panthers members,it automatically became vanniyars attacking dalits. I am not arguing that Ramdoss did not do caste based politics.I would only say that caste based politics arose because there are castes. Caste based fights arise because there are castes. When two caste based parties are strong in same area and they become rivals,naturally there will be caste wars. After allying with thiruma,the situation in northern districts is far better. Although it hasnt absolutely stopped the violence between these two castes, in long run we can hope that it happens. Ramdoss indeed ask for a seperate tamilnadu.But he did so because his party is strong in northern districts.And his party is strong in northern districts because it is vanniyar belt.And since 99.99% of his partymen are vanniyars,only a vanniyar can become CM. So this is a chicken first or egg first type of problem. Some time back,you asked for seperate union territory for brahmins, so I guess there is nothing wrong in such demands.And naturally if such a union territor emerges,I guess that only a brahmin will become chief minister But after allying with thiruma,ramdoss said 'If PMK captures power,thambi thiruma will become CM"
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