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**Preorbtat** · 01-24-2007, 01:47 PM

goundamani sir,
you have made a sweeping assertion,that 15% of our population eats dead cows,cleans toilets and washes mensus clothes of upper caste women.

Though this was( is) done(still done) by some groups,it was(is) not even remotely close to 15%.something near 1% might be the correct figure.night soil cleaning was a practice unknown before the muslim and british period.

In Tamilnadu,pallans had serious debilities,some social but more due to the fact they were agricultural landless labourers.

I oppose discrimination on grounds of birth,but economic differentiation seems to the main reason for emergence of pallar castes.

Dear Pappan,

Some dalits cleaned toilets, some were washermen, some were barbers, some climbed palm trees to make toddy, some were butchers, some had robbery as their job, some cleaned streets .I dont know what percent of dalits did some what decent jobs, but even those jobs had very bad working conditions and they lived like prisoners in their huts.

Toilet cleaning came to India only after muslims came here,but the people who cleaned toilets were already downtrodden.I dont know what their earlier job was, but I dont think that it would have been a decent profession.

Discrimination by birth and varnashrama have thrown dalits to the current situation.Rest of us should help them by education and destruction of castes.

01-24-2007, 01:47 PM	#34
Preorbtat Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 455 Senior Member	goundamani sir, you have made a sweeping assertion,that 15% of our population eats dead cows,cleans toilets and washes mensus clothes of upper caste women. Though this was( is) done(still done) by some groups,it was(is) not even remotely close to 15%.something near 1% might be the correct figure.night soil cleaning was a practice unknown before the muslim and british period. In Tamilnadu,pallans had serious debilities,some social but more due to the fact they were agricultural landless labourers. I oppose discrimination on grounds of birth,but economic differentiation seems to the main reason for emergence of pallar castes. Dear Pappan, Some dalits cleaned toilets, some were washermen, some were barbers, some climbed palm trees to make toddy, some were butchers, some had robbery as their job, some cleaned streets .I dont know what percent of dalits did some what decent jobs, but even those jobs had very bad working conditions and they lived like prisoners in their huts. Toilet cleaning came to India only after muslims came here,but the people who cleaned toilets were already downtrodden.I dont know what their earlier job was, but I dont think that it would have been a decent profession. Discrimination by birth and varnashrama have thrown dalits to the current situation.Rest of us should help them by education and destruction of castes.
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