Black women less attractive? Black men more attractive?
 

This article got pulled off Psychology Today after being posted a few days ago but I'm super cool and as a super cool fellow I was able to work around the powers that be. The article sparked too much controversy. Obviously the controversy revolves around Black women being less attractive than women of other races and not that Black men are more attractive than men of other races because some groups feelings are more important the the feelings of other groups.

I'm not copying and pasting the entire article. There are graphs and shizzle. So click the link and be all, like, part of the controversy and, like, stuff.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/55558908/W...Than-Other-Men

Why Are Black Women Rated Less Physically Attractive ThanOther Women, But Black Men Are Rated Better Looking ThanOther Men?

There are marked race differences in physical attractivenessamong women, but not among men. Why?Add Health measures the physical attractiveness of itsrespondents both objectively and subjectively. At the end of each interview, the interviewer rates the physical attractivenessof the respondent objectively on the following five-point scale: 1= very unattractive, 2 = unattractive, 3 = about average, 4 =attractive, 5 = very attractive. The physical attractiveness of each Add Health respondent is measured three times by threedifferent interviewers over seven years.From these three scores, I can compute the latent "physicalattractiveness factor" by a statistical procedure called factor analysis. Factor analysis has the added advantage of eliminating all random measurement errors that are inherent inany scientific measurement. The latent physical attractivenessfactor has a mean of 0 and a standard deviation of 1

It is because black men are most masculine than non-black men, also black women are masculine, but masculinity is very well looked in black men for obvious reasons. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/wink.gif

This is apparently the data:

http://i56.tinypic.com/jh3cxw.jpg

Supposedly he used some other theory of his(which relates to intelligence) to reach the conclusion that black men are more attractive, despite the data(perhaps he did it because he naively thought that it would protect him from accusations of racism). He doesn't really sound like the sharpest tool in the box, honestly, but what he's going through is reminiscent of the Larry Summers debacle, so I can't help but be sympathetic:

A May 2011 Psychology Today blog post written by Kanazawa asserted that Black women were less attractive and intelligent than women from other racial groups. [20] This article was based on the use of the opinions of Ad Health survey takers as an "objective" measure of attractiveness. The article was subsequently removed by Psychology Today without explanation or editorial accountability, and condemned by various figures including fellow Psychology Today blogger Mikhail Lyubansky, London School of Economics professor Paul Gilroy, and UMM professor Paul Myers as being pseudoscientific and harmful to marginalized groups. [21] [22]

On May 18, 2011, the University of London Union Senate, the Union’s legislative body representing over 120,000 students, voted unanimously in favor of calling for a campaign for Kanazawa's dismissal. The reasons stated for this call for dismissal include "flawed research" and "unscientific bigotry."[23]

Testosterone in simple words...

Lol only an idiot who cannot see how poorly researched the paper is would post it lol....

I dunno black women can be beautiful, the often have a high fat diet (facilitated by intergenerational poverty), hate to make generalisations, but I always seen them chucking back greesy chicken etc...
I think under the right conditions black women can be the best - think naomi cambell etc, Rhianna (although half Irish ) is stunning also.

And how objective can inherent prejudice be anyway?

I think most men don't like black skin on women(not dark skin I am refering to SSA skin color)
Beyonce's skin tone is ok but Naomis campbell skintone is very black and is considered "masculine",I'd feel less "manly" with a girl who's darker than me,racially men are always darker than the females of their race/ethnicity whenever I see a lighter skinned man be he asian,european or iranian with a black woman(non-beyonce types) they look weird together they don't "fit" but I can't say the same about lighter skinned women be she euro,lebanese or korean and black men they do fit

True, look at these two pics.... both the same, if you had to guess which was the man, i bet youd say the darker one.

a computer generated these images by averaging male and female faces. The only difference between them is in complexion. (The lips look more attractively feminine on the left face because of the greater contrast with the skin tone.)

There are more hormones that determine masculinity than just that!

I would say that the hormone that defines manliness the most is DHT.(as it directs bone composition; larger rib cages, shoulders, more compressed waist and penis size)

Also rather than the amount of testosterone alone, rather its the ratio of various hormones that matter more.

Testosterone just makes you aggressive, lack control of emotions that might initiate violence, sexual drive and amount of sperms.

It's so weird how people can view black women as masculine when they're also known for having curvaceous women.

they also are more muscly and they can't grow long hair
their hands and feet are usually bigger,I am refering to pure or predominally west african black women,East African women and some mulattas are much more gracile and can grow long hair,and are curvy but not muscly
look at this biracial man he doesn't fit with this dark skinned west african woman:

Black men more attractive than non-back men? I don't find black men attractive, not at all. And this goes for most non-black woman I know.

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You know, I see more often black woman with white man than I see white woman with black man. I have one black woman-white man couple living in my street (they have two beautiful mulatto daughters) so I am used to seeing black woman-white male couples. But when I see a white woman-black male couple, I find it weird. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/laugh.gif Also, in my area, most Dutch people don't mind it when a Dutch guy dates a black woman, but if it's the other way around and if the girl is pretty, she will get a lot of shit from from other people.

Well when I see a Spaniard woman with a black man from SSA they look weird
together but when I see a Spaniard woman with a black latino man they don't look weird together,I rerely see here in Seville Spaniard men with black women they are very rare and they look really weird together much weirder than SSA man and Spaniard woman http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/laugh.gif I don't think black men are the most attractive for women but I think black men don't need to grow hair,they are very muscly and have deep voice they also have big penises so that's why they are above asian men in terms of attractiveness and those characteristics can attract women while the aforementioned characteristics black women have and they somehow share with their black males are unattractive for us men

I think it's more a matter of features than of skin...

I won't say black women's features are masculine
they have rounder features,this not like all black women have big potatoe noses
which are very ugly

Yeah I think it's because you are not used to it. Like I said, I know a few black woman - white men couples but only one black male - white girl couple. And when you see it all the time, you get used to it.

Another example, I am also used to seeing Turkish men with European woman. As long as I remember, there has always been one Turkish male in my area who was married to a Dutch or Eastern European woman. But the last few years, you see more and more Turkish woman dating non-Turkish male, and that's just weird. Ofcourse it's normal and I have nothing against it, but because I am not used to seeing it like Turkish men - European woman, I always find it a bit weird to see a Turkish woman with a non-Turkish man. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/laugh.gif

I'm not against iterracial couples too
and yeah it would be very weird to see
a Moroccan woman with a Spaniard man
I've seen that before(didn't bother me)

This article clearly shows Black Men and Women as the most attractive.
Its all subjective option correct?
Beauty is all in the beholder and cannot truly be quantified correct?
The most important subjective opinion is displayed right here:




Black folks are actually Extremely attractive compared to Asians, Euros and Natives.
http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/rolleyes.gif

I wonder what champion he used to get this results...

lol its not worth taking that article serious, everyone who isnt in denial knows that black men are the least attractive men of all races.

black men are not more masculine than other races either, testosterone is regulated based on life experience. and those that did the tests found that blacks and whites who lived in similar lifestyles had the same ammount of testosterone at all ages.

the only difference was that blacks who participated in crime life had higher ammounts of testosterone, but this effect dissapeared once they entered their 40s, proving that it has nothing to do with genetics. (as we know, percentage wise, more blacks are criminals)

and when it comes to looks, blacks are less masculine than whites.

blacks have shorter torsos and longer legs, which looks more feminine compared to the longer torsos and shorter legs of whites.

blacks have flatter and softer faces, just like asians. which is more feminine compared to pointy, defined and robust features that caucasoids have.
blacks also have sloping forheads compared to the bigger and more prominent browridges of whites.(masculine trait)
and whites and blacks have about the same sizes in terms of jaws, only that blacks have prognathic jaws, which isnt masculine, just ugly.
and whites have more facial and body hair, which are also masculine traits.

like i have said many times before, the only reason one would think blacks are more masculine, is because many of them are athletes (because sports are highly valued in black culture, while academics are less important to them in general).
many of them are criminals, and many of them shave their head which automatically makes you look more masculine.

finally the media tries to make them look like badasses. dark skin however is only viewed as masculine based on social preconceptions. its just a color. white chicks who tan their skin dont look more masculine than those who dont do it.

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