[vipbunter]

http://www.leftcurve.org/lc22webpages/wiggers.html

What do you all think?

In the context of a continuing colonial exploitation of other nations by the West the appropriation of black music for mass financial commodification is another form of colonial rip off. For me to be a thief I have to take someone's property without asking, and the conditions by which my black cultural identity was formed do not constitute thievery. The concept of thievery is dependant on stealing, and becomes untenable when the artefacts are openly for sale and are being purchased. The real issue is over the currency with which the culture is purchased. It is not enough for white people to exchange money for a black cultural identity. Money is controlled by international capitalism and is not an appropriate currency to exchange for the riches of black culture. the effects of commodification are too water down the essence of cultures that have not been formed for commercial purposes, but have rather been integrated into peoples everyday struggle for survival in market-led societies. A more appropriate currency is the currency of dues.
On point!

[NanoGordeno]

Theft is where you remove something, depriving the original owner of it.
Copying leaves the original intact and so is not theft.

[bahrain41]

Cultural appropriation isn't cool.

I had a Cultural Anthro professor that used to come to class wearing Indian and ME style dress all the time and it really induced a lot of eye rolling on my part. I imagine she saw herself as worldly and progressive.

[nicktender]

Cultural appropriation isn't cool.

I had a Cultural Anthro professor that used to come to class wearing Indian and ME style dress all the time and it really induced a lot of eye rolling on my part. I imagine she saw herself as worldly and progressive.

I concurr.

We have a lot of it here in Mexico, lots of Aztec wannabes when for most sure their amerind ancestors belong to those other ethinicties who allied to the Conquistadores to destroy Tenochtitlan.

It is just that saying "Im an aztec descendant is cooler".

It is such as a hopi or a Ute descendant mestizo saying he/she descends actually from Cherokee because Cherokee is cooler!!!!!....

That doesnt happen among native americans in the USA because they are well informed and are proud of their own heritage.

[CaseyFronczekHomie]

I concurr.

We have a lot of it here in Mexico, lots of Aztec wannabes when for most sure their amerind ancestors belong to those other ethinicties who allied to the Conquistadores to destroy Tenochtitlan.

It is just that saying "Im an aztec descendant is cooler".

It is such as a hopi or a Ute descendant mestizo saying he/she descends actually from Cherokee because Cherokee is cooler!!!!!....

That doesnt happen among native americans in the USA because they are well informed and are proud of their own heritage.

Bet you wish you were descended from pharoahs like us!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingdom-Ark-.../dp/0684860643

[vulikox]

That doesnt happen among native americans in the USA because they are well informed and are proud of their own heritage.

It happens to some white people here though that invent some native ancestry because they think it is cooler than being white.

[dianakroshXX]

Yes, that's why I am overly skeptical of any old wives tales like that. I'm actually still wanting to reject my McDonald results on that principle, which is probably irrational, but still. I just barely claim Japanese cultural affinities, and I grew up with that in my household.

[traiffhetl]

Yes, that's why I am overly skeptical of any old wives tales like that. I'm actually still wanting to reject my McDonald results on that principle, which is probably irrational, but still. I just barely claim Japanese cultural affinities, and I grew up with that in my household.

When I was a teenager my mom told me we were part Lakota Sioux. Coincidentally she was reading Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee at the time. I think everyone just wants to be the victim.

McDonald said that my wifes less than .5% NA was real so I imagine if he can tell that much he is probably right about yours too? I don't know if people put much stock into McDonalds results or not though really.

[wJswn5l3]

When I was a teenager my mom told me we were part Lakota Sioux. Coincidentally she was reading Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee at the time. I think everyone just wants to be the victim.

In that case she should have said she was part Irish.

[heilyprollecyspor]

As I commented before My great grand mother form my mom's side was a full native descendant of the Otomi tribe, but she had already being "westernized", se did't keep her cultural Otomi traditions, thus now a days i dont have any link to the Otomies, the cultural link was broken before my great grand mother died.

So do I have any right to claim Im an Otomi?... just as much I have the right to claim Im french just because both my father's grand mothers were french......or Gaellician because of my gradfather?.

I think we should accept what we are however to do that we should understand our own history as ethnic group/country and our personal history as individuals, embrace it and be in peace with it.

[Fetowip]

In that case she should have said she was part Irish.

Well I used to think I was part Irish not that long ago even but my DNA results don't really look like it. My conjecture was merely based on surnames. As an American it wouldn't surprise me if I did have some Irish ancestry but if someone ask I say English or English and German.

[Plokiikmol]

Well I used to think I was part Irish not that long ago even but my DNA results don't really look like it. My conjecture was merely based on surnames. As an American it wouldn't surprise me if I did have some Irish ancestry but if someone ask I say English or English and German.

I guess you must be an oddity, cuz' English get no love in the repping game there. It's usually Irish, German, Italian or even Cherokee.

[Precturge]

I guess you must be an oddity, cuz' English get no love in the repping game there. It's usually Irish, German, Italian or even Cherokee.

True but at the same time I'm willing to bet most of the people that make those claims are in fact predominately English. The freaking country was founded by masses of English and I find it hard to imagine they just disappeared. I think it just isn't cool to be English here. It is just meh, generic, ordinary, etc.. so people don't claim it.

[movlabs]

True but at the same time I'm willing to bet most of the people that make those claims are in fact predominately English. The freaking country was founded by masses of English and I find it hard to imagine they just disappeared. I think it just isn't cool to be English here. It is just meh, generic, ordinary, etc.. so people don't claim it.

Over here Spanish is the meh type, and people with English, Italian or Lebanese surnames are the ones which get the cool status.

[inhitoemits]

McDonald said that my wifes less than .5% NA was real so I imagine if he can tell that much he is probably right about yours too? I don't know if people put much stock into McDonalds results or not though really.

He probably is right about it. My skepticism is more around the possible overlap with my East Asian ancestry, but I informed him of that, and he still confirmed it as Native. When I got around 1.5% Amerind in World9 and Eurogenes K13 etc. I always figured it was East Asian noise.

Still I only have one known family story that may explain it, and it sounds like an Injun knocked up one of my distant grandmas and left town, which doesn't really endear me to it. LOL. Of course it could be the locals were planning to lynch him, or maybe my Native segment has a completely different origin from some other family line.

Anyway I have no cultural affinity with Natives. My former stepdad was from the rez and I visited there a couple of times, but I never developed any sense of closeness with him or his people.