bullshit article, logical since nytimes is an american jewish controlled newspapper, i strongly dissagree with it.
if black people got what it takes, they can become like natives, if they don't have what it takes, they can rot as they usualy do.
but they shouldn't be crying about their race, not only because its annoying, but also because its extremly unfair for other races.

additionaly, usualy the black person doesn't fail because he is black, he fails because he is worthless as an individual and has a specific failed way of thinking.

is the bank racist because it wont give a loan to someone who has no guaranties? (e.g.property)
would the bank be racist if the immigrand would be a white immigrand from lets say greece and not a black one?

a guy with a car can drive
a guy with no car cannot drive

lets blame the state because people without cars can also be blacks http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/whoco.gif

what descrimination? the bank not giving them money without guaranties?

ULTIMATE RETARDATION

You said most French Moroccans are criminal when they are not, stop trolling. There is much racism against French Moroccans, I hang out with a lot of them and I'm no criminal nor do I hang with criminals.

They're paying the broken glasses of Moroccan gangs in France
anyway Africans are darker and uglier than Moroccans why would Franch people treat them badly If it wasn't because they're probably acting worse than African SSA on average?

Far rightard response, a white from another European country comes here and gets loans and star up capital, especially those from other EU countries.

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French Moroccans are darker skinned Africans get along well here in Paris and Moroccans are Africans, stupid. I live outside of Paris and not in Chateau Rouge, but I do live near some Moroccans, no issues here, the same for Algerians and Tunisians. If I was single I could date their women if I wanted, lol.

i have never tried to take a loan abroad, but i am sure that NO BANK will give you a loan without guaranties, be you black, white, yellow or green like the martians.

i am not aware if in the european union someone can use as a guaranty property which is in a different country.
but i am totaly sure that a guy from lets say argentina would get nothing, simply because the bank doesn't give a shit about your race, all that it wants is to make profit and not loose money by giving loans to people who wont be able to repay them. guaranties such as property nullify that danger and allow peole who do not have the required income to get a loan, you don't have guaranties? you don't get a loan.

their women are muslim and intermarriage with an Afram and christian is unlikely to be allowed and Moroccans are North Africans and very different from SSA on avrage both phenotypically and culturally,they get along well it's possible but I am sure they have their prejudices
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How do you know black French don't or will not repay loans? Stop wasting my time trolling.

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I meant to say French Moroccans AND darker skinned Africans get along, and my family and their families have get togethers, whats the problem?

you don't have to know anything about anyone,
the bank doesn't care knowing you,
it cares knowing that she wont loose money by lending you.

now if you use that thing which is called logic you can easily end up to the following conclusions
immigrands which are usualy uneducated workers have lower incomes which means that they need a good guaranty to take the loan.
having low income and being "new" to a country means that you wont have property such as houses which can be used as guaranties
not having a guaranty or income means that you simply wont get a loan, which in turn means that you have to either find money "elsewhere" or work and save money untill you obtain the capital.
obviously, the native will have all these stuff, and obviously again the natives will find it easier to have their loan aproved.

either way, race is irrelevant to this.

oh and yes, if you can argue against me then do so, but do not say trolling just because you don't like how the reality is.

good I would probably get along with you and Africans If I were in France but what has it to do with the subject of this thread'

An African immigrant in France has will pay off his lone faster than the Greek government if it got a loan from Germany.

you see, you can't really argue against the reality, and that is why you have to write something about the greek goverment.
but you can cry and advertise the bad invisible and non existant racism right?

You post speculation but to say there is no racism against blacks in France is nonsense.

Official race neutrality by the government is a good thing. America should adopt the policy of France, in America there should be no racial data collected on its citizens.

i was going to comment on this thread but i see it has desended into chaos and bickering so im just gonna sit back and watch yall bitch while i get some popcorn and watch the show.

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^ 3d shades to enhance my viewing experience.

carry on.

i do not post speculations, i have a sufficient enought knowledge of:
a) how banks work
b) the problem immigrands face
c) the mentality of black immigrands

i did not say that there is no racism in france, i said that:
1) the article is full of bullshit
2) in the case of loans, the race of the person who will recieve the loan is irrelevant.

dirty gremlin looking berber. The purchasing power of Afram shits on morrocco.

The shit that comes out of my ass looks better than all the pictures you bombard this forum with. You are a lousy ass european wannabe who supports stereotypes and discrimination against gis own people.

No one gives a damn about berbers on here. Thats why EVERY DAMN THREAD about black people, you have to relate it somehow to north african berbers.

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The mentality? You know Nigerians are often some of the most educated in these nations.

women making fecal references..how charming


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i do not doubt that perhaps they are in these countries, but african immigrands in greece are neither the most educated or the hardest working.
infact its quite the opposite, they appear to be avoiding working as much as they can.

Black immigrands in greece:

they sell illegal cds

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they illegaly sell fake bags

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they illegaly sell all sorts of stuff

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they force their women to prostitution and deal drugs

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it appears that none of them is actualy working as other immigrand groups do even if they are more capable for work tha these other groups, e.g. pakistanis despite being physicaly weaker do work on agriculture and even construction, black people don't.
and even if they actualy found a much more mature greek sociaty with less racism than lets say albanians found.

allthought i have noticed that some spesific groups which i do not really know of which ethnicity they are, (but definately they are from the eastern africa), appear to have a different mentality and are actualy trying for their lifes.
ofc this is not statistics, its what i see with my own eyes living in athens.
i would also asume that the way things appear to be also has to do with the more educated africans prefering other european countries with bigger salaries, than greece which is on the border of bankrupcy.

Are you sure of that ? Because North-african here in france marry a lot the whiteq and the blacks who are christians . Probably because they are integrated and have the same values of us .

Nevermind . About the topic . France is not a racist country, but I agree they are a lot of discrimanation against peoples who are darker than french like Africans (blacks and maghrebi) , Portugueses...

A black or a maghrebi have very few chance to find an appartment in Paris .

that contradict the first http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/laugh.gif