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kucheravka 01-02-2012 02:26 AM

French blacks skeptical of race neutrality
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/21/wo...ht-france.html


I live here now and love it those subtle signs of racism are here.

Sandvikla 01-02-2012 02:41 AM

So called "race neutrality" and other politically correct ideologies are creating more race problems.

You go to WN sites and there are often threads asking members why they joined, and it's often because of race neutrality policies, political correctness, and cultural Marxism that makes them angry because they feel their culture is being belittled and dismissed as "evil".

But the people preaching this are usually white liberals who are a very racist lot. I've divorced myself from the Occupy movement because of the racism, not just against non-whites but against whites in North America who don't speak English (French-Canadians, white Hispanics, Italians, Portuguese, Canadian Gaels, etc.). They told me not to get more Acadians involved in Occupy and they kicked a black guy out. White liberalism is purely based on a system of white supremacy and white privilege that pegs "white" as "normal" and that when dealing with anyone of another race, they must "deny their identity" to make them "acceptable".

For example, most white liberals cannot have a black friend until they are "unable to see them" as black.

Yet I get private messages from these types of people quite frequently... calling me racist. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/laugh.gif

PrettyFifa12 01-02-2012 02:43 AM

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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/21/wo...ht-france.html


I live here now and love it those subtle signs of racism are here.
Examples?

TheReallyBest 01-02-2012 03:00 AM

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Examples?
I have my own personal experiences. In France I'm not given a second look by most French as they assume I'm already from there, not even the French blacks give me a second look, however at one hotel I was staying at one french couple thought I must have worked there as a bellboy because I am black even though no black bellboy was on duty at that time.

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So called "race neutrality" and other politically correct ideologies are creating more race problems.

You go to WN sites and there are often threads asking members why they joined, and it's often because of race neutrality policies, political correctness, and cultural Marxism that makes them angry because they feel their culture is being belittled and dismissed as "evil".

But the people preaching this are usually white liberals who are a very racist lot. I've divorced myself from the Occupy movement because of the racism, not just against non-whites but against whites in North America who don't speak English (French-Canadians, white Hispanics, Italians, Portuguese, Canadian Gaels, etc.). They told me not to get more Acadians involved in Occupy and they kicked a black guy out. White liberalism is purely based on a system of white supremacy and white privilege that pegs "white" as "normal" and that when dealing with anyone of another race, they must "deny their identity" to make them "acceptable".

For example, most white liberals cannot have a black friend until they are "unable to see them" as black.

Yet I get private messages from these types of people quite frequently... calling me racist. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/laugh.gif
I agree with the message of OWS but not with most of the people in it.

hexniks 01-02-2012 03:18 AM

I hate when people think someone is racist because they assume they are cheap labour http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/whoco.gif
I wouldn't get offended if I am as a Moroccan descendant in Spain was confused for cheap labour because that's what Moroccans are in Spain so who are we to blame them???

cefunonge 01-02-2012 03:21 AM

Lulz, sometimes if I'm wearing cache pants and a light blue oxford shirt, some old lady will think I'm a sales guy at a retail store.

sueplydup 01-02-2012 03:22 AM

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I hate when people think someone is racist because they assume they are cheap labour http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/whoco.gif
I wouldn't get offended if I am as a Moroccan descendant in Spain was confused for cheap labour because that's what Moroccans are in Spain so who are we to blame them???
It is racism, why should anyone assume someone is cheap labor based on their skin color? You know what they think of Moroccans over here in France? I hang out with a lot of those dudes plus darker skinned Afro-French.

Lapsinuibense 01-02-2012 03:24 AM

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It is racism, why should anyone assume someone is cheap labor based on their skin color? You know what they think of Moroccans over here in France? I hang out with a lot of those dudes plus darker skinned Afro-French.
it's not racism because immigrants and immigrant descendants 90% of them work as cheap labour,the bad thing they might think is racism but French Moroccans are responsible for the racism they receive and I suppourt the deportation to Morocco of all those off apples

Gromiaaborn 01-02-2012 03:24 AM

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I agree with the message of OWS but not with most of the people in it.
Same here. Well, the supposed message. It's been hijacked by a bunch of liberal elite with a 1% mentality. It's not for the 99% at all.

Leczyslaw 01-02-2012 03:27 AM

I must point out that most subtle racism I experienced wasn't in Paris itself since I hang out mostly in Chateau Rouge and Pompidou, the only crap I get is the typical BS that some Francophone Africans give Anglophone Africans when I use English, when I used French no problem.

NEronchik 01-02-2012 03:27 AM

White liberals are the worst and the least genuine. I tell my fellow black people to be weary of them the most.

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it's not racism because immigrants and immigrant descendants 90% of them work as cheap labour,the bad thing they might think is racism but French Moroccans are responsible for the racism they receive and I suppourt the deportation to Morocco of all those off apples
It doesnt surprise me that a piece of shit such as yourself would think this way.

Shinegayboyx 01-02-2012 03:30 AM

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it's not racism because immigrants and immigrant descendants 90% of them work as cheap labour,the bad thing they might think is racism but French Moroccans are responsible for the racism they receive and I suppourt the deportation to Morocco of all those off apples
Shut up sell out, lol, French Moroccans aren't a big problem here, where do you get your info? They have it worse on average than Africans from below the Sahara. I live nearby some Aframs here who are expatriates and they say the same.

GillTeepbew 01-02-2012 03:31 AM

I am not a sell out but unlike you Aframs and blacks in general i selfcrictize the bad actions of my people,I don't live in denial and if they receive racism is because they don't act as good french citizen,not all of course but a significant number does and I think they should be deported to Morocco and clean the bad image they gave to good Moroccan people

purchasviagra 01-02-2012 03:32 AM

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White liberals are the worst and the least genuine. I tell my fellow black people to be weary of them the most.

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It doesnt surprise me that a piece of shit such as yourself would think this way.
MLK spoke well of white liberals, he said they were for blacks as far as not wanting to see us get bit by dogs and sprayed by hoses and attacked by Klansmen, but were not for true equal rights.


LOL at Patricula, the Moroccans here would call him a sell out.

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I am not a sell out but unlike you Aframs and blacks in general i selfcrictize the bad actions of my people,I don't live in denial and if they receive racism is because they don't act as good french citizen,not all of course but a significant number does and I think they should be deported to Morocco and clean the bad image they gave to good Moroccan people
You are a sellout, you pretend that most French Moroccans act like scum when they don't and Aframs do criticize bad behavior from other Aframs, retard.

LindaSmithIV 01-02-2012 03:35 AM

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I am not a sell out but unlike you Aframs and blacks in general i selfcrictize the bad actions of my people,I don't live in denial and if they receive racism is because they don't act as good french citizen,not all of course but a significant number does and I think they should be deported to Morocco
You dont live in denial. You live on this message board bombarding threads with pictures of ugly ass berbers that have nothing to do with the subject.

Sad thing to justify the mistreatment of your people.

Flieteewell 01-02-2012 03:35 AM

I don't care what those Moroccans would call me honestly,I am not like you who suppourts ghetto culture and crimes Aframs do in the US and deny all of that and blame anyone as racist who dare to crictize your "community" http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/whoco.gif

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You dont live in denial. You live on this message board bombarding threads with pictures of ugly ass berbers that have nothing to do with the subject.

Sad thing to justify the mistreatment of your people.
you shouldn't talk about beauty being west african http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/whoco.gif http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/laugh.gif

viiagrag 01-02-2012 03:37 AM

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I am not a sell out but unlike you Aframs and blacks in general i selfcrictize the bad actions of my people,I don't live in denial and if they receive racism is because they don't act as good french citizen,not all of course but a significant number does and I think they should be deported to Morocco and clean the bad image they gave to good Moroccan people
Sell out, lol, how many French Moroccans do you know? Stop confusing French Moroccans with the ones in Spain, the French are racist against those people in varying degrees.

Daruhuw 01-02-2012 03:38 AM

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MLK spoke well of white liberals, he said they were for blacks as far as not wanting to see us get bit by dogs and sprayed by hoses and attacked by Klansmen, but were not for true equal rights.


LOL at Patricula, the Moroccans here would call him a sell out.

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You are a sellout, you pretend that most French Moroccans act like scum when they don't and Aframs do criticize bad behavior from other Aframs, retard.
most don't act like scum but a significant number does and that's why they're hated,If they were good citizen like the chinese they wouldn't get as much racism in france as they get

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Sell out, lol, how many French Moroccans do you know? Stop confusing French Moroccans with the ones in Spain, the French are racist against those people in varying degrees.
sell out? LOL
I am not a sell out for crictizing the bad behaviour of Moroccans in France

TagBahthuff 01-02-2012 03:39 AM

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I don't care what those Moroccans would call me honestly,I am not like you who suppourts ghetto culture and crimes Aframs do in the US and deny all of that and blame anyone as racist who dare to crictize your "community"
What do you know about French Moroccan culture? Stop trolling. You know nothing about Afram culture either. You're a sell out Moroccan who thinks he's a Spaniard.

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most don't act like scum but a significant number does and that's why they're hated,If they were good citizen like the chinese they wouldn't get as much racism in france as they get

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sell out? LOL
I am not a sell out for crictizing the bad behaviour of Moroccans in France
You said most when not even most are like that, you are a sell out, you're painting most for the behavior of a few, you sound like sell out right wing trash.

Finanziamento 01-02-2012 03:42 AM

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What do you know about French Moroccan culture? Stop trolling. You know nothing about Afram culture either. You're a sell out Moroccan who thinks he's a Spaniard.
I don't think I am a Spaniard
I was born in Spain but I am a Rif berber I never claimed to be Spaniard even if I have Spanish citizenshio,I love my people but I don't like Moroccans who do crimes in Europe or wherever and I crictize them and don't justify their bad acts with racism as you do with your people at every subject and that's why Aframs are stuck living in the richest country with full rights and opportunities


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