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[Cnbaapuy]

Tiger Woods had such a nice wife, and still he cheated on her. I guess we never have enough...

[Vedun*]

^ he cheated her with a much uglier women though, I never got that

[Ggskbpbz]

Sexual prowess > aesthetics.

[23InetrySypekek]

what draws beautiful women to repulsive men? i see it all the time, beautiful women with slightly less-than-perfect to downright brutal looking guys. What's the deal?

Someone told me that women actually prefer ugly dudes because they think they're less likely to cheat or be approached and seduced by other women. Is this true?

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[67Irralphaisa]

women are attracted to status and dominance. Its in their nature and its one of the main reasons we evolved as a species.

For example, in chimp wars, the most aggresive and murderous chimps end up with most females. The best warriors are given the best status. Moreover, the females attraction to the high status "warrior" ensures that future chimps in the troop will ,more than likely, be stronger, aggressive and warlike. The choosy females enable the troop to become stronger and stronger and hopefully moreso than their rivals.


in tribal societies, the best warriors are given high status because they are the most usefull, beneficial to the tribe, and they definitely get the female attention. In modern society, men with money and power are given high status, thus women flock to them.

Men have a very different sexual selection process. How often are rich and powerful woman like hilary clinton thought of a sex objects by men? yet, bill clinton, even at his old age today, has more female options than most men on earth.

[Aniplinipsync]

Sexual prowess > aesthetics.

I don't know about that. For example, I prefer Tiger Woods' wife over a cheap prostitute, although the cheap prostitute is going to be the best lover. However, I think you are right in extreme cases. For instance, a girl who never wants to make love with the lights on, and who finds oral sex disgusting, is less attractive than a sheep.

[giturbewan]

Tiger Woods had such a nice wife, and still he cheated on her. I guess we never have enough...

Beauty don't prevent cheating

[Bgfbukpf]

Beauty don't prevent cheating

Well, you are right about that, but maybe it's more difficult to be faithful if you don't feel attracted to your partner anymore.

[adactthrd]

women are attracted to status and dominance. Its in their nature and its one of the main reasons we evolved as a species.

For example, in chimp wars, the most aggresive and murderous chimps end up with most females. The best warriors are given the best status. Moreover, the females attraction to the high status "warrior" ensures that future chimps in the troop will ,more than likely, be stronger, aggressive and warlike. The choosy females enable the troop to become stronger and stronger and hopefully moreso than their rivals.


in tribal societies, the best warriors are given high status because they are the most usefull, beneficial to the tribe, and they definitely get the female attention. In modern society, men with money and power are given high status, thus women flock to them.

Men have a very different sexual selection process. How often are rich and powerful woman like hilary clinton thought of a sex objects by men? yet, bill clinton, even at his old age today, has more female options than most men on earth.

You are comparing animals with humans, right? I feel sorry for you.

[Styparty]

Let me clarify from earlier… men find greater value in 'Beauty' than women do. Beauty is not an easy topic to discuss or pinpoint. But women do not value beauty in men ~ when it comes to sexual attraction. Women value other superficial and behavioral traits, such as, violence & aggression. Women sexually are attracted to "aggressive" men. This is known as a man's "self-confidence" or his ability to gain "respect".

Women seem much less prone to find a man sexually attractive on first appearance. But with men… we instantly know if a woman is 'hot' or 'not'. Women apparently don't think this way, as far as my experience goes. For women, a man's "Value", as a mate, is demonstrated over days, weeks, and years. Women want a man who lasts, is permanent. Men are just the opposite; men are after the sex.

Austronesian is correct; women are after the status.

[fiettariaps]

It depends usually its money , like girls looking for sugar daddies lol

But not me i don't care about money lol
I wouldn't care if he had all the money
If he's lower than 5 ( average ) then I wouldn't date him
Which btw below 5 is ugly lol

[dselectronics]

You are comparing animals with humans, right? I feel sorry for you.

We're only 6 million years removed from those "animals" and really only 10-25 thousand years removed from Tribal Amazonians and New Guineans where Status is achieved by the Enemies-killed scorecard.

You don't think that you as a male in our modern society are subject to a Score card? You're judged everyday. People Judge on the car you drive, the beauty of women on your arm, and clothing you wear.

What do you think all these social symbols lead to? they lead to your status. Your money and power, your IQ, your confidence, your discipline, and your athletic ability. Notice that I didn't say attractiveness. It's a plus, but it's not the most important factor to a woman. Women are looking for security, for traits that will provide their children with success. Attractiveness won't provide security, and Being attractive won't kill rivals and/or put food on the table.


Men care about a woman's physical appearance. We care about Boobs, Hip-to-waist ratios, proper fat distribution (apple, pear or Hour-glass shapes), and Feminine facial features. These traits are all linked to reproduction, like the females preferences, but in a different way. It's all a risk-assessment process in both the Female and the male but with different gender-specific objectives.


Women care about the END RESULT of the reproduction process. Can he protect the kids? (strong?, confident?) Can he feed the kids with Meat? (Able bodied? High IQ?) Will he provide the Kids with successful traits (inherited from him) when they are fully matured? (is he successful? Rich? Alpha male? Powerful?)

Men care about the PROCESS of the reproduction. Can the women carry the kids? (apple, Hourglass, or pear body) Is she fertile? (Boobs, feminine features) How many can she pop out? (young, middle aged, too old)

It's really easy to figure this stuff out when you remove the Emotional aspect of this and start to view it in a Mechanical way.

[Numbiydq]

First reason is MONEY
Second reason is, in Russia for example there is not as many available men as women so they take what they can get.

[RadcliffXX]

First reason is MONEY
Second reason is, in Russia for example there is not as many available men as women so they take what they can get.

Is that the reason why there are so many good-looking Russian women looking for a love partner in the internet?

[denyffishh]

We're only 6 million years removed from those "animals" and really only 10-25 thousand years removed from Tribal Amazonians and New Guineans where Status is achieved by the Enemies-killed scorecard.

You don't think that you as a male in our modern society are subject to a Score card? You're judged everyday. People Judge on the car you drive, the beauty of women on your arm, and clothing you wear.

What do you think all these social symbols lead to? they lead to your status. Your money and power, your IQ, your confidence, your discipline, and your athletic ability. Notice that I didn't say attractiveness. It's a plus, but it's not the most important factor to a woman. Women are looking for security, for traits that will provide their children with success. Attractiveness won't provide security, and Being attractive won't kill rivals and/or put food on the table.


Men care about a woman's physical appearance. We care about Boobs, Hip-to-waist ratios, proper fat distribution (apple, pear or Hour-glass shapes), and Feminine facial features. These traits are all linked to reproduction, like the females preferences, but in a different way. It's all a risk-assessment process in both the Female and the male but with different gender-specific objectives.


Women care about the END RESULT of the reproduction process. Can he protect the kids? (strong?, confident?) Can he feed the kids with Meat? (Able bodied? High IQ?) Will he provide the Kids with successful traits (inherited from him) when they are fully matured? (is he successful? Rich? Alpha male? Powerful?)

Men care about the PROCESS of the reproduction. Can the women carry the kids? (apple, Hourglass, or pear body) Is she fertile? (Boobs, feminine features) How many can she pop out? (young, middle aged, too old)

It's really easy to figure this stuff out when you remove the Emotional aspect of this and start to view it in a Mechanical way.

Nailed it.

[affewheillMapew]

What draws beautiful women to repulsive men?

Case closed.

[weaddercaps]

We're only 6 million years removed from those "animals" and really only 10-25 thousand years removed from Tribal Amazonians and New Guineans where Status is achieved by the Enemies-killed scorecard.

You don't think that you as a male in our modern society are subject to a Score card? You're judged everyday. People Judge on the car you drive, the beauty of women on your arm, and clothing you wear.

What do you think all these social symbols lead to? they lead to your status. Your money and power, your IQ, your confidence, your discipline, and your athletic ability. Notice that I didn't say attractiveness. It's a plus, but it's not the most important factor to a woman. Women are looking for security, for traits that will provide their children with success. Attractiveness won't provide security, and Being attractive won't kill rivals and/or put food on the table.


Men care about a woman's physical appearance. We care about Boobs, Hip-to-waist ratios, proper fat distribution (apple, pear or Hour-glass shapes), and Feminine facial features. These traits are all linked to reproduction, like the females preferences, but in a different way. It's all a risk-assessment process in both the Female and the male but with different gender-specific objectives.


Women care about the END RESULT of the reproduction process. Can he protect the kids? (strong?, confident?) Can he feed the kids with Meat? (Able bodied? High IQ?) Will he provide the Kids with successful traits (inherited from him) when they are fully matured? (is he successful? Rich? Alpha male? Powerful?)

Men care about the PROCESS of the reproduction. Can the women carry the kids? (apple, Hourglass, or pear body) Is she fertile? (Boobs, feminine features) How many can she pop out? (young, middle aged, too old)

It's really easy to figure this stuff out when you remove the Emotional aspect of this and start to view it in a Mechanical way.

What you are describing are rational reasons for looking partners. That has nothing to do with animals. The safer the status and power of the male the more female attention he would get. But animals have a different sense of protection. The better physics wins basically all the time, while human males need to have just money or other valuable properties. Human females don't go by looks at all, while males have apparent reproduction motivations, but there is nothing like Alpha male syndrome. That's just made up gang shit.

[UriyVlasov]

but there is nothing like Alpha male syndrome. That's just made up gang shit.

is it? I'd think about that some more if I were you. The alpha male "syndrome" is quite an Aphrodisiac.



that's why studying our closest relatives "the chimps" can tell us about ourselves.

[OnerePeepsy]

Let me clarify from earlier… men find greater value in 'Beauty' than women do. Beauty is not an easy topic to discuss or pinpoint. But women do not value beauty in men ~ when it comes to sexual attraction.

I know there are women who go crazy about male-models, but mostly beautiful women don't pay too much attention to the beauty factor, but it doesn't also mean that the man should be ultra ugly lol he can be ok, while a beautiful woman is satisfied with her own beauty and is not after man's beauty so much.

Sexual attraction or charisma between two people is caused by many different factors. The man can be not handsome, but attract the woman by his character and many other things