[lodsemelf]

How bizarre. I have no idea why they would describe him that way.

[MpNelQTU]

Originally Posted by Marllon That's because the standard of what constitutes a white person is very flexible in "Latin America". Uruguay is no exception. Neither is Argentina.

I'm talking about the perception in the UK, where it has been widely reported. LOL Owned.

[pavelChe]

His brother Paolo Suárez:

[WapSaibian]

nooooo hahahhaa. no. dude is an obvious mestizo.

[MADwanker]

LOL Owned.

Owned? How? Stop trolling, drama queen. Jupitar and I were not dissing each other. I misinterpreted her question and then she clarified what she meant. Grow up.

[sandracuk]

Owned? How? Stop trolling, drama queen. Jupitar and I were not dissing each other. I misinterpreted her question and then she clarified what she meant. Grow up.

First of all, stop using that dissing word, makes it look like this were a rap battle or something like that.

Second, you jumped into conclusions too soon (not even knowing the guy plays in England and that's where all this affair started).

[TheBestCheapestOEM]

Mixed like most of Uruguayans.

Well he looks mixed.That is the man that made a racist remark to the other player.

The word "negro" does not necessarily have racist connotations in Uruguay.

[Virosponna]

First of all, stop using that dissing word, makes it look like this were a rap battle or something like that.

Second, you jumped into conclusions too soon (not even knowing the guy plays in England and that's where all this affair started).

I'll use whatever verbiage I wish. You're making it more serious than need be. You wrongly presume that the location was specified in the first place. Stop meddling and blowing up things out of proportion. Attempting to create nonexistent beef is beyond petty and immature.

[xgnuwdd]

NO, this is a myth that has to stop, and I see you are mixed race so you have to understand it. Racism is based on power. As such only those classified as white in our current global system truly have the power to be racist against those who aren't classified as 'white'. People who aren't classified as white simply can't be racist in tbe same way. A mixed race South American being racist to a black African is kind of impotent, if that's the right way to put it, they just don't have the global social power to back it up. I'm not saying this is right, I am just saying there is a clear hierarchy in place right now, and it is pure Europeans against non-pure European or any one else. It might well change in the future, but right now that is what most people understand, and that is why the Luis Suarez case is weird. Except that Europeans (whites) are always liable to accept others to their fold when it suits, if it's in their interest, I guess that's what happening now, with slightly ambiguous South Americans. Maybe...?

So a pedophile in a wheelchair isn't considered a pedophile because he doesn't have the power to harm children?

[Wsjltrhe]

You wrongly presume that the location was specified in the first place.

There was no need to. This is old news actually, and any moderate football fan knows this guy plays in England and that it was there where it happened.

[Yswxomvy]

Well, you wrongly assume that everyone is going to know that. You need to understand that not everyone is privy to that. I don't keep up with international soccer, other than when it's the World Cup, and this is because my local networks don't typically stream foreign games.

[poonnassunlix]

So a pedophile in a wheelchair isn't considered a pedophile because he doesn't have the power to harm children?

How is this a relevant comparison? First of all he probably would have the power to harm children. But besides that, being a paedophile is not a socially constructed phenomenon, unlike racism. The only reason one person has the power to harm another using 'race', is because there is a huge global power differential between those considered white and those not considered white. If that didn't exist, then pointing out the colour of some one's skin or some other physical attribute different to your own would not provoke any reaction at all. It is only because Europeans are widely considered to be superior to others that they have the power to be racist. Basically, when a white person is racist to some one, he is pointing out to his opponent that his social status is much higher. Luis Suarez, not being white, does not enjoy this social status to begin with.

[dodsCooggipsedebt]

NO, this is a myth that has to stop, and I see you are mixed race so you have to understand it. Racism is based on power. As such only those classified as white in our current global system truly have the power to be racist against those who aren't classified as 'white'. People who aren't classified as white simply can't be racist in tbe same way. A mixed race South American being racist to a black African is kind of impotent, if that's the right way to put it, they just don't have the global social power to back it up. I'm not saying this is right, I am just saying there is a clear hierarchy in place right now, and it is pure Europeans against non-pure European or any one else. It might well change in the future, but right now that is what most people understand, and that is why the Luis Suarez case is weird. Except that Europeans (whites) are always liable to accept others to their fold when it suits, if it's in their interest, I guess that's what happening now, with slightly ambiguous South Americans. Maybe...?

You may be right in principle, but people who are considered as "white" aren't in power everywhere. Also, direct person to person racism, perhaps involving violence, does not require anyone to be in power in a social context. Furthermore, in the US, an African American person may very well be the boss of some whitey, and as such he can theoretically be racists against him as he is the wielder of power in that case.

If some assumed whitey enters an area populated entirely by non-whiteys, the residents there can also be racists in many ways towards that person, if they use slurs and take action against that person on perceived racial grounds. They have the "power" in that scenario.

I can think of a gazillion scenarios where any kind of people can be racists.

[Symnunidanimb]

A lot of people think he's White, maybe they think he's Spanish or something.

And aparently he's grandfather is Black.

[Aniplinipsync]

I didn't know he was triracial. Him and his brother could pass for mestizos.

[Bill-Watson]

I didn't know he was triracial. Him and his brother could pass for mestizos.

Maybe that Black grandfather was heavily mixed...

[venediene]

Mixed like most of Uruguayans.





The word "negro" does not necessarily have racist connotations in Uruguay.

Maybe but i live in Ireland and it was on the news and radio a good bit about (racist remarks) he made and they were making a big deal of it. A lot of Irish are interested in the English premier teams that why it was so widely reported over here aswell.

[chinesemedicine]

Maybe but i live in Ireland and it was on the news and radio a good bit about (racist remarks) he made and they were making a big deal of it. A lot of Irish are interested in the English premier teams that why it was so widely reported over here aswell.

it was a PC hyper sensitive media witch hunt, he was just lost in translation.

Negrito is not racist. And in America he would considered a 'Brother' anyway.


So in American terms it was black on black crime.

[Wachearex]

NO, this is a myth that has to stop, and I see you are mixed race so you have to understand it. Racism is based on power. As such only those classified as white in our current global system truly have the power to be racist against those who aren't classified as 'white'. People who aren't classified as white simply can't be racist in tbe same way. A mixed race South American being racist to a black African is kind of impotent, if that's the right way to put it, they just don't have the global social power to back it up. I'm not saying this is right, I am just saying there is a clear hierarchy in place right now, and it is pure Europeans against non-pure European or any one else. It might well change in the future, but right now that is what most people understand, and that is why the Luis Suarez case is weird. Except that Europeans (whites) are always liable to accept others to their fold when it suits, if it's in their interest, I guess that's what happening now, with slightly ambiguous South Americans. Maybe...?

I consider this to be one of the most false and most dangerous theories to have come forth from US liberal universities.

Nonwhite people commit racism against nonwhite people (and also against white people). Ethiopian maids and Indian workers get treated very badly in Gulf Arab and Middle Eastern countries. Indian Singaporeans get treated badly by Chinese Singaporeans. Some Mestizo LatinAmericans or Mulatto LatinAmericans treat purer-looking blacks or indians badly. The fact that the perpretator of these racist acts aren't white or don't have the "global power" doesn't make it any less hurtful for the victims of it. The origin of this racism also lots of time doesn't have anything to do with Europe or white people at all (Gulf Arabs have been treating Africans badly since the Middle Ages).

What this theory gives is an almost free pass for nonwhites to commit racist acts. Well, I guess "Uruguayans don't have to do anything to solve this racism problem, since it's not their fault. Only when the white-male-establishment in the West is toppled will racism truly ends. Until then, nothing is to be done and this isn't really a problem at all."

This thought process not only shows anti-white bias (only white people can commit truly racist acts), but is also condescending against nowhites (they're a more innocent, more naive race of men).

P.S. Kwestos is Polish. I don't think that counts as mixed-race, AFAIK.

[Illirmpipse]

Evra mostly made a big deal out of it because he's a Man United player and Suarez is a Liverpool player. Apparently, not only did Evra start it by talking about Suarez' sister's genitals, Suarez has made similar comments before as a Liverpool player (to Yaya Toure). 99% of this whole incident is simply cultural misunderstanding and club rivalry. If Suarez really was a racist, he would be facing charges similar to Terry. Also, why would John Barnes, a player who got bananas thrown at him in the 1980s, defend him?

As for Suarez, he has a black grandfather and he looks like he does have some Native American ancestry as well. He's from a poor background and not very well educated, compared to the middle-class, well-educated, diplomat's son Evra.