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the chinese empire had its impact in humanity... |
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I believe he was responding to Elias.. saying Africans had no impact on the world, but they (Africans) are people too, the question is, if the Chinese and Meso-Americans were included in AGE of Empire games, why no "black" African civilization. and because most people ignore their history... |
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Egyptians were not black... ---------- Post added 2012-05-12 at 01:22 ---------- Related to east African ones. ---------- Post added 2012-05-12 at 01:22 ---------- The answer is simple really; there were no Black African Empires that had any significant impact on the world, not in reality and not in the imaginations of the game designers/game consumers. |
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OT rant. I can never find the video game thread. It would be nice if we had minor subsections for literature and video games. To be on topic, sort of lol, I prefer turn based to real time when it comes to strategy type games. Im not going into the whole "no Negro influence thing"...I assure you this claim is notoriously fraud. I respectfully disagree...Anyway according to your theory Aztecs and other Native American tribes shouldn't be in the game either. It's not a theory by the way. I'm just saying, there wasn't any Negro civilisation, and so, there's no incentive to include any Negro Empire in a video game. These "empire" games are about civilisation mainly. This is what really convinced me of my theory. If you can include them you can at least include Mali Empire, Fulani Empire, Ashanti Empire Ethiopian Empires etc... Can we really ignore the Nubians...they were well known for their Archers. Even the Egyptians called their territory TA-Seti (Land of the Bow) |
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because those empires were not as great as those. |
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Well that's a personal opinion, do you know anything about the Malian Empire? It was a center in Islamic Culture and scientific scholarship, I don't know how anyone can totally discredit such a civilization. ![]() |
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Well that's a personal opinion, do you know anything about the Malian Empire? It was a center in Islamic Culture and scientific scholarship, I don't know how anyone can totally discredit such a civilization. ![]() Do you really think video game developers are going to include an "empire" with sand castles as their most impressive architecture? For fuck's sake, it would be a joke and no one would pick the Mali Empire to play with. |
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It's not fraud. "Civilisation" my ass: http://www.vacationhomes.net/blog/20...und-the-world/ The Great Mosque of Djenné is one of the most amazing and unique mosques in the world. That marvellous building is made of mud, clay and wood, which can be found in the area and is voluntarily maintained by the local people who prevent it from cracks and damage caused by erosion and moisture. The walls of the Grand Mosque are built of sun-baked clay bricks, called ferey, and clay mortar. They are covered with plaster of clay and are thick between 41 and 61 centimetres, which gives a smooth sculpted look of the building. Half of the mosque is covered by a roof and the other is an outdoor prayer garden. The mosque was one of the most important Islamic learning centres in Africa during the Middle Ages. Grand Mosque remains the most outstanding symbol of the city of Jenny and Mali. Ancient Assyrians extensively used mud bricks too, so by your own logic you shoot yourself in the head. |
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were those scholars and scientists black people or were they MENA people(the elite) from Syria,Persia or the Maghreb? |
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were those scholars and scientists black people or were they MENA people(the elite) from Syria,Persia or the Maghreb? ---------- Post added 2012-05-12 at 01:55 ---------- "Civilisation" my ass: http://www.crystalinks.com/assyria.html I doubt the majority of the scholars were MENA, but I really can't say for sure. It doesn't make a difference though, this isn't even about whether "blacks" can be scholars or not, we already know they can, and have been, even in MENA countries that rejected them (racism) since the "Muslim Empire" (Al-Jahiz). We're talking about why their civilizations aren't included in games. Even if every scholar in University of Sankore was "white", it wouldn't make the Empire they built any less great, in fact I think the ability to except great scholars regardless of race is a sign of greatness. The Malian Empire was built on the use of new ideas and inspiration, much like the majority of Islamic civilization at the time (though Mali was an empire before Islam). |
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I've had in mind for quite some time to add a literature section. Don't know about video games, but probably will add one in the Lounge if so. But the literature section will be in the main and open as it's an important aspect of human intellectual diversity. I've been postponing it for too long. Again I refuse to discuss the "no Negro civilization" myth. There is to much information on the topic. It is profoundly irresponsible to remain willfully ignorant on the topic |
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African civilizations were largely unknown and had no real impact upon any other people. By the time Euros began colonizing Africa seriously those "empires" were already gone and their material legacy was rather scarce.
In case of Mesoamerica Euros had to face strong opposition from a relatively sophisticated civilization that has left numerous architectural sites as its legacy. If that makes you feel more comfortable Georgians also never made it into AoE and the like narrative despite having quite developed states in antiquity. I guess you just need to accept the unpopularity of Black civilizations among other people or try to promote those cultures without usual silly Afrocentrist claims. |
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African civilizations were largely unknown and had no real impact upon any other people. By the time Euros began colonizing Africa seriously those "empires" were already gone and their material legacy was rather scarce. |
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