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mloversia 05-10-2012 06:25 PM

Why do some populations produce while others do not?
 
Is it genetic? Look at the British, French, Spanish/Portuguese, Germans, Italians, etc... and then look at Estonians and Latvians and Belorussians. Same race yet totally different levels of innovative output. Why? Look at Europeans as a whole and compare their collective creative output to that of Sub-Saharan Africans. There's no comparison. Why?

LICraig 05-10-2012 06:56 PM

The countries you have mentioned are not of same racial stock.But it doesn't have to do with race much.Think;med europeans created hellenic and roman civilization when germanics were simple barbarians.But then germanics and brits got the upper hand.It is a complex result of historical and geographical conditions.

If we compare eu to africa,It is debatable there are genetic differences or not.

Bejemoelemymn 05-10-2012 07:03 PM

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Is it genetic? Look at the British, French, Spanish/Portuguese, Germans, Italians, etc... and then look at Estonians and Latvians and Belorussians. Same race yet totally different levels of innovative output. Why? Look at Europeans as a whole and compare their collective creative output to that of Sub-Saharan Africans. There's no comparison. Why?
They have geographic advantages...because of it Europeans have been able to trade and adopt new ideas, navigate the whole world, and advance their neighbors.

CHEAPSOFTOEMONLINE 05-10-2012 07:09 PM

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They have geographic advantages...because of it Europeans have been able to trade and adopt new ideas, and navigate the whole world, and advance their neighbors.
What geographical advantages? Living in a cold climate with less biodiversity and slow plant growth rates is hardly an advantage.

NETvoyne 05-10-2012 07:14 PM

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What geographical advantages? Living in a cold climate with less biodiversity and slow plant growth rates is hardly an advantage.
Not climatic conditions but where it is situated on the globe. Its proximity to other regions and its coastline have accommodated the most interaction with other cultures and civilizations.

KirillAristov 05-10-2012 07:14 PM

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Is it genetic? Look at the British, French, Spanish/Portuguese, Germans, Italians, etc... and then look at Estonians and Latvians and Belorussians. Same race yet totally different levels of innovative output. Why? Look at Europeans as a whole and compare their collective creative output to that of Sub-Saharan Africans. There's no comparison. Why?
Fucking troll, what is your creatives out put compared to that of an African inventor?

AOE6q4bu 05-10-2012 07:19 PM

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Fucking troll, what is your creatives out put compared to that of an African inventor?
Sorry?

Tell us, at least, the name of the inventor...

Abnorttrano 05-10-2012 07:25 PM

Well, there is two ways of looking at this. There is the Sowell way and there is the Cinderella way (she's a poster here).

I think Sowell's trilogy on culture hits all the buttons. The reader reviews at amazon for his first of the three books doesn't explain it as well as I would like but I found one that is adequate enough. I'm too tired right now to be all intellectual and stuff.

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Is it genetic? Look at the British, French, Spanish/Portuguese, Germans, Italians, etc... and then look at Estonians and Latvians and Belorussians.
No it not genetic. Black man can be British, French, or Catalan. You need only speak language and love country and everybody think you Catalan. Do you want to be Catalan? Spaniards call us Polacos. So you can be Catalan if you like.

Que?! I mean WHAT?! You not know Spaniards! I Catalan! I now! They have no Newton or Washington. They hate Catalans because we make everything and they steal from us!!!!! Now they think of moving soldiers to Catalonia!!! It true!!! Like Hitler do to Poland!!! Rajoy want to KILL US! Spain like Russia. They have no Newton. No apple tree. No nothing.

Same race yet totally different levels of innovative output. Why? Look at Europeans as a whole and compare their collective creative output to that of Sub-Saharan Africans. There's no comparison. Why? It because they have no Newton. If they move to England or Catalonia they have Newton but no Newton on Africa. It sad story.

*Cinderella mode off*

illiniastibly 05-10-2012 07:27 PM

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Is it genetic? Look at the British, French, Spanish/Portuguese, Germans, Italians, etc... and then look at Estonians and Latvians and Belorussians. Same race yet totally different levels of innovative output. Why? Look at Europeans as a whole and compare their collective creative output to that of Sub-Saharan Africans. There's no comparison. Why?
Culture of course.

Look at Korea; north vs south. Same people. Compleatly different production output.

So no. It's not "genetic".

husartrof 05-10-2012 07:30 PM

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What geographical advantages? Living in a cold climate with less biodiversity and slow plant growth rates is hardly an advantage.
Europe has navigable rivers and natural ports unlike Sub-Sahara Africa. Rivers in SSA get all wild and crazy eventually, which totally fucks up any long distance trade.

CoenceLomneedtrue 05-10-2012 07:33 PM

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Culture of course.

Look at Korea; north vs south. Same people. Compleatly different production output.

So no. It's not "genetic".
You never get anything...

That kind of "production" means nothing, since Korean achivements are due to her "westernazing". In fact, I find your post highly counter"productive".

intisgunkas 05-10-2012 07:36 PM

Yes, it depends on colour of hair and distance between eyes. Nations with more blue eyes achieved more, so I believe its blue eyes too.
Thread closed.

Bounce 05-10-2012 07:39 PM

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Yes, it depends on colour of hair and distance between eyes. Nations with more blue eyes achieved more, so I believe its blue eyes too.
Thread closed.
Not exactly.

It is about R1b... Are you R1b? You are a man. Are you any other thing? Sorry.

Kotyara 05-10-2012 07:41 PM

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Not climatic conditions but where it is situated on the globe. Its proximity to other regions and its coastline have accommodated the most interaction with other cultures and civilizations.
Most of these European regions were very much on the peripheral of the known civilised world and isolated from the early great trade routes. There's are reason why the Levant, Middle East, Indus Valley, Turkey, Greece and Egypt were early hot beds of civilisation while Britain, Scandinavia and Germany were considered to be beyond the pale and regarded with mythical trepidation.

SzefciuCba 05-10-2012 07:53 PM

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You never get anything...

That kind of "production" means nothing, since Korean achivements are due to her "westernazing". In fact, I find your post highly counter"productive".
Umm.. what? Could you elaborate a bit on that?

You're suggesting that Japan is also productive only due to copying the west?

(Ps. the "You never get anything..." was pretty exaggerated lol. Did you get your feelings hurt over something I said in another thread?)

grofvuri 05-10-2012 07:56 PM

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Not exactly.

It is about R1b... Are you R1b? You are a man. Are you any other thing? Sorry.
Is it a joke or you are for real?

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Umm.. what? Could you elaborate a bit on that?

You're suggesting that Japan is also productive only due to copying the west?

(Ps. the "You never get anything..." was pretty exaggerated lol. Did you get your feelings hurt over something I said in another thread?)
He clearly did not understand the example. North and South Korea are different with the same genes (apr). Is it westernised or not? South Koreans are westernised and north arent- its different.

apannamma 05-10-2012 07:58 PM

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Umm.. what? Could you elaborate a bit on that?

You're suggesting that Japan is also productive only due to copying the west?

(Ps. the "You never get anything..." was pretty exaggerated lol. Did you get your feelings hurt over something I said in another thread?)
No, sir, everybody knows Japan, before her "westernazing", were the main producer of... copycating Chinese culture.

And about your postscript, no, Sir, you are a good guy that never hurts anyone but also a bit thick one that never gets anything.

PilotVertolet 05-10-2012 08:12 PM

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No, sir, everybody knows Japan, before her "westernazing", were the main producer of... copycating Chinese culture.

And about your postscript, no, Sir, you are a good guy that never hurts anyone but also a bit thick one that never gets anything.
Hehe, ok kid.

Kragh 05-11-2012 01:34 AM

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Fucking troll, what is your creatives out put compared to that of an African inventor?
Okay, I'm sorry blacks did everything.

NO OFFENSE but peanut butter is hardly an invention and imagine any other black invention without the solid foundation of a previous white invention.

Sellorect 05-11-2012 01:46 AM

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Is it genetic? Look at the British, French, Spanish/Portuguese, Germans, Italians, etc... and then look at Estonians and Latvians and Belorussians. Same race yet totally different levels of innovative output. Why? Look at Europeans as a whole and compare their collective creative output to that of Sub-Saharan Africans. There's no comparison. Why?
These countries have very different geopolitical situations. It's very boring and unintellectual to write down it to "these has always been backwards and will be".

For example, Lithuania has achieved this:
Do you know what equipment scientists working in Lithuanian laser laboratories jokingly call cepelinai – the name of a national Lithuanian dish? They are parametric light generators and amplifies manufactured by the Companies Å*viesos konversija and Ekspla, which account for about 80 per cent of the world market of these products. At some largest world research centres parametric light generators are used to study ultra-fast processes taking place in substances. The laser technology company Ekspla in Lithuania, which has inde-pendently created and manufactured laser systems and related equipment for 18 years already, occupies more than half the world market of scientific picoecond lasers and is the only one in the world to manufacture SFG (sensitive to submonolayer of molecules) spectrometers intended for studying surfaces of materials. The Company exports more than 90 per cent of its production to 40 count-ries. Well-known names of its customers Hitachi and Mitsubishi research centres, IBM, NASA, the USA navy and military air force centres show that the largest Lithuanian laser technology companies have been recognized among its customers. Last year the Company established its representation in China. http://www.madeinlithuania.lt/Techno...l_in_the_world


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