[Frinzer]

Ethnicity and religion aren't the same thing, I think people should separate Church and State, they don't make a good combination

@Jibaro, WASP means White Anglosaxon Protestant


So even a white hispanic such as my dad can be taken as a white american, he can adopt most of the wasp culture, and act as a wasp and even clusters with wasps and you wouldnt really notice the difference but I think not many white hispanics would adopt the religion, I mean talking in general I dont think they would.

[ebBPxIai]

@Jibaro, WASP means White Anglosaxon Protestant


So even a white hispanic such as my dad can be taken as a white american, he can adopt most of the wasp culture, and act as a wasp and even clusters with wasps and you wouldnt really notice the difference but I think not many white hispanics would adopt the religion, I mean talking in general I dont think they would.

My point is that is not a good idea to gorup religion with ethnicity, you know, like not accepting a Mexican in US culture becuase if him bieng Catholic, it remins me of colonial times were a person who practiced a different religion form the state was expelled, so I disagree with not accepting ethnicities because of religion

[exettybele]

@Jibaro, WASP means White Anglosaxon Protestant
So even a white hispanic such as my dad can be taken as a white american, he can adopt most of the wasp culture, and act as a wasp and even clusters with wasps and you wouldnt really notice the difference but I think not many white hispanics would adopt the religion, I mean talking in general I dont think they would.

No completely there are some guys that are no protestants and no anglo that get some kind of honorary position into the WASP culture.
Lets say some East Asians and some Jewish have WASP status. Chelsea Clinton got married to a Jewish guy,
Condolece Rice and Herman Cain have a similar status than the WASP.

I think the most important is the behaviour, they are conservative, hard workers, capitalist, high discipline.

[duexjepevef]

I know in some companies they take blood samples or hair samples in order to check if the person has consumed THC (Marihuane), Actually the vast majority use urine samples and THC is out of your system in 30-45 day max. Also those tests are normally pre-employment screening only unless you work in healthcare, emergency services, etc.

My last hiring process, they didn't even test me, but a majority of large corporate employers do.

No employer ever asked for my Facebook info. In fact I deleted my Facebook account so good luck with that.

Nobody cares if you gamble unless you're a degenerate. I used to be in a lottery pool with like 10 people in my dept including our VP. When we finished a big project, we went to a local casino to drink, gamble, and stay overnight at the casino hotel to avoid DUI. This was a Fortune 100 company.

LOL...

[M4tHkBw2]

Actually the vast majority use urine samples and THC is out of your system in 30-45 day max.

The hair test is more accurate:

http://www.dwiprograms.com/id34.htm
Hair testing is quite accurate and can go back normally 3 months (6 months or longer possible with specialty tests),
showing any drugs of abuse used in the detection window. As hair grows out, any drugs used are encased in the hair shaft,
so the longer the hair, the longer back in the individual's drug history the lab can detect. Accredited hair drug testing labs, however,
only use hair within about 2.5–4 cm of the scalp, and discard the rest. With head hair each 0.5 inch (0.8 cm) corresponds to about 30 days.
This limits the detection history to about 90 days, depending upon the rate of growth of the individual's hair. Some people attempt to circumvent
this through shaving their heads. In the absence of the required amount of hair on the scalp, body hair can be used as an acceptable substitute. It
is also possible to use body hair to do hair drug testing, but since body hair grows slower, the head hair window of detection measures will not apply
to body hair.

[Lunims]

^^ sure it is, and the only employer I have encountered that used it was a casino company. How ironic is that? Not ironic at all, actually, because of the nature of that industry. They have to screen more vigilantly to keep dishonest people out of the casinos and hotels, but the company-wide hiring policies also apply to corporate office workers.

[Klavalala]

I would never change my surname to become more English-sounding. There is far too much history and pride behind it.

[Opislossy]

No completely there are some guys that are no protestants and no anglo that get some kind of honorary position into the WASP culture.
Lets say some East Asians and some Jewish have WASP status. Chelsea Clinton got married to a Jewish guy,
Condolece Rice and Herman Cain have a similar status than the WASP.

I think the most important is the behaviour, they are conservative, hard workers, capitalist, high discipline.

Maybe it is not me the one who should say this but if you put it in those terms then lemme tell you i could really do it...

[KukkoDrukko]

Well he's talking about the families of prominent politicians and CEO's etc. What is that, the top .000001% of society of something. Still many of them have some alcoholic brother or uncle etc. Look at the Kennedy family, "America's first family", earned their money bootlegging during prohibition, in the modern era a bunch of womanizers and alcoholics.

Anyway on a separate note, I consider myself fully integrated into middle class white society, with the exception of belonging to some Christian church, which I don't. Other than that, I was born with my father's English surname, I have never been arrested, I have a college degree and a 20 year professional employment history, live in the suburbs and work in corporate America. If I drink some whiskey, buy a lotto ticket, or listen to some black musician, it really isn't anybody's business.

[adesseridopaw]

To renounce all ties especially for a first generation American is pretty much impossible. It would be like trying to be something I'm not. But nonetheless I am all for the gradual integration/assimilation into Mainstream American Culture (over the course 1 or two generations or so). Multiculturalism often time only leads to divisions. I am culturally far more American than my parents, and a bit more "Americanized" than the average first generation Mexican American, and chances are my progeny will continue this trend towards complete Americanization. But nonetheless, I still feel strong ties to my ethnic background and traditions being that it is very much recent and fresh.

[DEMassteers]

I'm two generations away from a nation that fought a full scale war with Americans 60 years ago. I mean they were the fucking worst enemy of Americans, propagandized as subhumans, bombed back to the stone age, US citizens property seized, rounded up and sent to camps etc. 2 generations later and I consider myself fully Americanized. It helped that my mom was raised in a military family then married into one of the oldest subcultures in the country, but really it should be possible in a few generations for anybody.

[adactthrd]

Well he's talking about the families of prominent politicians and CEO's etc. What is that, the top .000001% of society of something. Still many of them have some alcoholic brother or uncle etc. Look at the Kennedy family, "America's first family", earned their money bootlegging during prohibition, in the modern era a bunch of womanizers and alcoholics.

Anyway on a separate note, I consider myself fully integrated into middle class white society, with the exception of belonging to some Christian church, which I don't. Other than that, I was born with my father's English surname, I have never been arrested, I have a college degree and a 20 year professional employment history, live in the suburbs and work in corporate America. If I drink some whiskey, buy a lotto ticket, or listen to some black musician, it really isn't anybody's business.

I am talking about middle class people, most Americans I know are from Des Moines, a city known for being liberal, and they still are conservative. Never seen anyone with a three day beards or messy.
I am very tide but those guys are the extreme.

This is the image i am talking about (picture are no real because it is not correct to post real people but the idea is present):

[IdomeoreTew]

^^ My maternal grandfather was a Catholic German who's family was from Dubuque, which is on the eastern edge of the state. I have no first hand experience with the culture up there, cut off from that part of the family, but it does look to be tidy and low crime, at least from a distance. I never thought of them as New England WASPs though. Certainly if you were looking for an ideal middle American culture, they could be an example.

[nuveem7070]

LOL @ the OP who thinks you must erase your ethnicity to be an upstanding citizen

Please, not even a goid proportion of white americans fit this ideal themselves.

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Its ironic because I have known some Black people who are considered so-called "white washed" entrenched in a white community/society and let me tell you, the white people NEVER allow them to forget their skin color. In a bad way.

[TXmjLW9b]

I'm a minority and i'm fairly intergrated.

I rarely eat food from my own ethnicity. In fact, I've never had 95% of the cuisine, and I think it's disgusting really. I don't speak my ethnic tongue, and I don't want to (i would rather learn Chinese or Spanish).

I feel everyone should speak english and speak it properly. Anyone who doesn't is rude especially in public places. English should be the official language of the United States.

If you live in America, you should practice and adhere to American culture and values. If you don't like it, then leave.

[kertUtire]

I'm intergrated, but unfortunately far from a minority. Germans run this establishment that is the United States! Fuck yes! Oh.....you English & Irish have your parts too.

[affozyBoomi]

My family has not renounced where we come from and I'd say my parents are model immigrants, fully integrated despite still being Dominicans. They did such a good job that there was no need to integrate their children, we were simply born into Americanisms. I certainly haven't renounced my heritage to maintain something I've been assimilated into since birth.

Immigrants should practice whatever identity they hold onto at home though, including language.