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Old 03-18-2012, 01:06 PM   #1
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Default Why do early Babylonians and Elamites look like ethiopians with dreadlocks?
THESE ARE IMAGES OF EARLY BABYLONIANS- http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...de0cn.jpg/sr=1 next one http://lanaveva.files.wordpress.com/...rnasirpal.jpeg last one http://www.truthnet.org/Daniel/Introduction/mesop1.jpg
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Old 03-18-2012, 01:10 PM   #2
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None of those links work.
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Old 03-18-2012, 01:10 PM   #3
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none of the links appear to work for me
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Old 03-18-2012, 01:11 PM   #4
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i'll do them over

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none of those links work.
there re-done

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there re-done
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Old 03-18-2012, 01:25 PM   #5
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Assyrian Magician, Samuel Kasrani has dreadlocks. To be honest, I think they look good on him. It gives him this quasi-genuine Jamaican-look to him.





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Old 03-18-2012, 01:27 PM   #6
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I believe this is what they look like when they are not 'restored.' Or maybe not. *shrug*
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Old 03-18-2012, 01:29 PM   #7
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okay- and i would have mistaken him for a Somali or Yemenite

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I believe this is what they look like when they are not 'restored.' Or maybe not. *shrug*
True

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Assyrian Magician, Samuel Kasrani has dreadlocks. To be honest, I think they look good on him. It gives him this quasi-genuine Jamaican-look to him.





He has to be part african though
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Old 03-18-2012, 02:16 PM   #8
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This probably has something to do with it:

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Old 03-18-2012, 02:19 PM   #9
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I would look more toward Gedrosia, and the Indus Valley, for the explanation. At least, in significant part. Assuming they are accurately represented, that is.



We have Assyrians (~ N Mesopotamians) who look like the men below. If they can look like this in the north, well, then, in the south, it is not unreasonable to imagine the potential for even greater phenotypic overlap with peoples from the east. A greater frequency of African elements in the south is also a good bet, as we can still observe such elements, among populations such as the Mandaeans, and Mizrahim, in certain ADMIXTURE runs.





Edit: Although, one must also certainly keep in mind the contribution of Arabian genes, to the Assyrian and Babylonian phenotypes.
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Old 03-18-2012, 02:46 PM   #10
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I would look more toward Gedrosia, and the Indus Valley, for the explanation. At least, in significant part. Assuming they are accurately represented, that is.



We have Assyrians (~ N Mesopotamians) who look like the men below. If they can look like this in the north, well, then, in the south, it is not unreasonable to imagine the potential for even greater phenotypic overlap with peoples from the east. A greater frequency of African elements in the south is also a good bet, as we can still observe such elements, among populations such as the Mandaeans, and Mizrahim, in certain ADMIXTURE runs.





Edit: Although, one must also certainly keep in mind the contribution of Arabian genes, to the Assyrian and Babylonian phenotypes.
Yes, and we should also keep in mind that some Assyrians belong East African paternal Haplogroups such as E1b1b. As for our mtDNA, it seems to be of local origin. But I wouldn't discount the possibility of South-Central Asian or even East African mtDNA. I think we Assyrians might have some "extra" African input. Though I don't exactly know what that means, I've heard that term being used by other posters. There is one Assyrian cousin of mine, who I recently became acquainted with, who belongs to mtDNA Haplogroup X2.

For the record, I don't know if it's real or just noise. But I also scored 1% "E African" in the Harappa DNA Project.
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Old 03-18-2012, 06:16 PM   #11
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@ the thread starter

those hair styles look like dreadlocks to you?

really?
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Old 03-18-2012, 06:26 PM   #12
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they were sunburned
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:14 AM   #13
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they still have east african genes, it most likely started the ethnic groups.
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:22 AM   #14
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I would look more toward Gedrosia, and the Indus Valley, for the explanation. At least, in significant part. Assuming they are accurately represented, that is.



We have Assyrians (~ N Mesopotamians) who look like the men below. If they can look like this in the north, well, then, in the south, it is not unreasonable to imagine the potential for even greater phenotypic overlap with peoples from the east. A greater frequency of African elements in the south is also a good bet, as we can still observe such elements, among populations such as the Mandaeans, and Mizrahim, in certain ADMIXTURE runs.





Edit: Although, one must also certainly keep in mind the contribution of Arabian genes, to the Assyrian and Babylonian phenotypes.
They only share their darker skin color with populations to the east. Those brachycephalic armenoid forms you posted are def more typical of the middle east rathern than tajiks, balochis, punjabis, pashtuns who tend to be Mesocephalic to dolichocephalic nordindids and iranids.
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