[Frogzlovzy]

I think the Salvadorian Harnizo and castizo population is a bit higher than that, maybe 15%. But being from Central America they are heavily mixed with Amerindian.

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I've noticed a lot of Puerto Ricans look like depigmented Africans. But they definitely have a sizable white population. My ex coworker was Puerto Rican and looked very southern Euro. When I tried explaining to her that her ethnicity might be PR but her race is white she looked at me like I was crazy LOL.

If she was NY Rican then that could be possible as in the US white and PR are considered separated races, and she didn't understood what you said to her, on here you could be more understood(despite many off white call themselves mixed on here)

[IdomeoreTew]

All Hispanics in the US are labeled as "white-hispanic".

[NETvoyne]

I think the Salvadorian Harnizo and castizo population is a bit higher than that, maybe 15%. But being from Central America they are heavily mixed with Amerindian.

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I've noticed a lot of Puerto Ricans look like depigmented Africans. But they definitely have a sizable white population. My ex coworker was Puerto Rican and looked very southern Euro. When I tried explaining to her that her ethnicity might be PR but her race is white she looked at me like I was crazy LOL.

yeah in nyc it seems phenotype wise there are pricans who overlap with the italian community and then those who seem like paled out blacks
which also is strange because every other puerto rican u meet will tell u he/she is part italian or part african american to help explain why they look the way they do

[BarBoss]

I don't believe these numbers at all!! Maybe someday the Census will add the Mestizo category

[Morageort]

I think Lemba posted this a while ago. The irony, in my opinion the number of Dominicans who Identified as white is close to what the actual number of White Dominicans in the USA is. Although, still a bit exaggerated, yet we're the ones who are usually call self haters, white wannabes etc.. in these type of forums lol.

[2puO4Rhf]

According to the US census, 33% or so of the Mexicans in San Jose, CA identify as white hispanics. I think what that means is 33% of them are relatively light skinned or somewhat Euro looking and thus identify as white but I know without a doubt 33% of them don't actually resemble Spaniards or other Europeans.

How do San Jose chicanos/mexicans look like? Are they balanced mestizo or more european than amerindian based on their phenotype?

[CAxrrAYN]

If she was NY Rican then that could be possible as in the US white and PR are considered separated races, and she didn't understood what you said to her, on here you could be more understood(despite many off white call themselves mixed on here)

She is actually a Californian Puerto Rican She described herself using a term that I can no longer recall, but it meant a light skinned PR and she also told me about a term used to describe darker skinned PR's.

[Mjypksun]

She is actually a Californian Puerto Rican She described herself using a term that I can no longer recall, but it meant a light skinned PR and she also told me about a term used to describe darker skinned PR's.

I hope it doesn't sound despective

[Gideleb]

16 millon of Mexicans white hispanic?....

Lets define what's white hispanic firts:


These are a white hispanic:







theres are not white hispanic:







Thus if all those 16 million of mexicans where "White hispanics" they all would look like the formers but I bet you the mayority of them look like the latters so they arent white hispanics, they are mestizo people....

[Rndouglas]

I don't believe these numbers at all!! Maybe someday the Census will add the Mestizo category

Here's a personal anecdote that I've previously mentioned here before:

As everyone in the US knows, the last census included some rather awkward additional options for Latinos/Hispanics to choose from. Previously, the questions just wanted to know if you were Latino/Hispanic, and from which of the major groups or some other. In this case, they added an additional 'racial' option, except the options of course only confused the great majority.

So what does say, a Colombian girl I personally know do? Please note the following before I proceed with what happend in real life:

-She primarily self-identifies as Colombian (nationality).
-She knows she is Latina/Hispanic.
-When it comes to 'race', she does not self-identify as white, neither here in the US or Colombia and neither is she seen as such.


So what did she pick from choices given? She choose white. Why? Because none of the others made sense to her (actually none of them), and white was the closest match (based from what I can perceive on lighntess of skin and more Euro. influenced phenotye). She is obviously mestiza/castiza. There is no desire or fantasy of her wanting to be white. There is no deep thoughts or pondering about this, it was done in a matter of seconds. She refers to American whites as blanquitos, not herself. I think you guys get the point.


I share this story, because it seems that if the right questions are not asked, (in other words they must be tailored to the target population ), then there's going to be the chance that you're going to get weird answers which are at odds with the reality most of us know (as in how the lay person really thinks).

I just think there is too much theorizing and pseudo-psychoanalyzing on forums and some bureacrats and even ivory tower academics. Get out in the streets, get to know the population, and you'll soon see why they'll sometimes seem to give out weird results or answers. For one, lay people do not commonly use terms like 'tri-racial' or castizo, no one here in Nj would even know what I'm talking about. And biracial? (Say it to them in Spanish).Most non-Americanized people would think there is some bi-sexuality involved with race or that it refers to Americans. LatinAmericans think of race in terms of national (their country is their race) or PanEthnic (Latinio/Hispanic) or even Ethnolinguistic grouping (Spanish speakers of the New World).

[Teprophopay]

ÃŽf she was mestiza/castiza, she should have checked both white and Native American(you can check more than 1 box)

[Unlinozistimi]

Which Hispanics identify as white?




Source: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gn...tify-as-white/

[Luisabens]

16 millon of Mexicans white hispanic?....

Lets define what's white hispanic firts:


These are a white hispanic:







theres are not white hispanic:







Thus if all those 16 million of mexicans where "White hispanics" they all would look like the formers but I bet you the mayority of them look like the latters so they arent white hispanics, they are mestizo people....

I think some of it has to do with the census workers. Many people simply assign Latinos the "white" race by default. So if Mexican Americans don't list a race, census workers will go to their homes and get the rest filled out. Another example, I was reading some of my sister's school documents and noticed that they had her listed as ethnically Hispanic but under race, they had her listed as "White"
But anyway, I doubt these 16 million Mexicans see themselves as "White".

I have my fun anytime I need to fill out forms pertaining to race/ethnicity Whether it be for employment, school, government papers, etc. Just because they never get it right.

[FredderiK]

US Ricans seem to be more race conscious that the ones here.

[DraidodaRip]

Which Hispanics identify as white?




Source: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gn...tify-as-white/

Bolivia: 63.4%

So where do you guys think we should draw the line for who should mark white? In the castizo range and up? Criollio?

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US Ricans seem to be more race conscious that the ones here.

I agree. I think there is an overall tendency for American Latinos to become more race conscious in the USA in general.

[Ephedrine]

US Ricans seem to be more race conscious that the ones here.

What is interesting is that most Latinos prefer to identify themselves as white, and when they have no clue what they are they select ''Other'', instead of ''Native and White''.

[zawhmqswly]

i don't belive this, too difficult to do so.

that's because pred. european puerto ricans and dominicans (quadroons/octoroons and pred. euro triracials) identify as white...but by "white" they just mean pred. european, not white in the USA sense...

[janeemljr]

I hope it doesn't sound despective

Do you mean disrespectful? If yes, no, it didn't at all. It sounded like an equivalence of "moreno".

[hellenmoranov]

I agree. I think there is an overall tendency for American Latinos to become more race conscious in the USA in general.

And that are the pros of their ethnic struggle in the US, taht it makes them more conscious and aware of who they are and were they came from, on here that is not important, which is a con.

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Do you mean disrespectful? If yes, no, it didn't at all. It sounded like an equivalence of "moreno".

Okay.

[masterboyz]

What is interesting is that most Latinos prefer to identify themselves as white, and when they have no clue what they are they select ''Other'', instead of ''Native and White''.

Who knows... maybe they assume "Native and White" = US Natives and US whites.