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Old 10-23-2011, 11:38 AM   #1
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Default Black Mexicans Documentary
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:15 PM   #2
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Watched the Mexico part. I like when the black professor says in reference to Mexico...

"It had a romantic idea that if it eliminated racial categories it would eliminate racism. But that was really a form of racism itself. You can't be great if you try to suppress a huge aspect of your history and a huge part of the identity of your people. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck."
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:27 PM   #3
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Yeah I agree. It's fascinating how Mexico and South America want to keep these 'U.S. black intellectuals' away from their nations.

I don't blame them. I wouldn't want some pseudo Americana black intellectual going around telling my country what to do either.


The U.S. is nothing to emulate in terms of racial relations and South America knows this. There's a reason after all that U.S. blacks are much blacker than South American ones. U.S. whites didn't mix with them on the same levels.
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:28 PM   #4
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Up here in the north I have never seen a black person in my life.
The only black people I saw when growing up were the ones from a comic book and a comedy show, oh, and the black girl from the show ''Saved by the bell''.


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Old 10-23-2011, 12:37 PM   #5
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They talk about that cartoon character in the documentary. A lot of the black folk they showed don't look black like Africans or Aframs. I assume they are more mixed. Interesting film though. According to them 1 out of every 2 African slaves bound for the Americas was sold in Mexico. That is a lot of African DNA there.
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Old 10-24-2011, 02:25 AM   #6
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Ive seen that documentary before, it was a good documentary. I wish they could've shown more, like the blacks from Northern Mexico, they live in a small town. Hopefully one day I can take a trip to Costa Chica and check their town and their people.
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Old 10-24-2011, 03:34 AM   #7
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Mexicans and Chicanos (largely Northern and Western Mexican descent) on 23andme consistently score 2-4% SSA on average. It seems like very few score significantly more than that or, conversely, lack it altogether. The handful of Mexicans on 23andme without any SSA have been largely heavily indigenous individuals from the South as far as I know. It would be interesting to see what Costa Chicans score on this tests, considering their isolation preserved their 'blackness' to a much larger extent, since the descendants of runaway slaves and free men in most of New Spain/Mexico were eventually assimilated into mainstream 'mestizo' society. Based on what they look like, I'd expect them to be more indigenous than African on average, though.

The 'Black grandma in the closet' part is far-fetched, but admixture tests and historical records do point towards there being widespread African admixture in Mexico, albeit in very minor amounts on average. Mexico's racial and cultural heritage is still overwhelmingly Euro-indigenous, except for some small pockets along the Gulf and the southwestern coasts where the African aspect is much more readily apparent.
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