[boxcigsnick]

It's true. There's dozens of stories out there that show that life is getting harder for the white privileged class in South Africa. I feel some small amount of sympathy for them, but a lot of it was brought on themselves.

[lidya-sggf]

It's true. There's dozens of stories out there that show that life is getting harder for the white privileged class in South Africa. I feel some small amount of sympathy for them, but a lot of it was brought on themselves.

perhaps there are some native africans who feel resentment toward them for the apartheid, there are good and bad people in all races.

[neirty]

perhaps there are some native africans who feel resentment toward them for the apartheid, there are good and bad people in all races.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but whites and Coloureds are being treated like crap, and there's no international outcry like there was to end the apartheid system. Rapes, murders, thefts, polygamy, law & order in the country has taken a turn for the worse since the ANC has taken power.

[NiliSpuppypax]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but whites and Coloureds are being treated like crap, and there's no international outcry like there was to end the apartheid system. Rapes, murders, thefts, polygamy, law & order in the country has taken a turn for the worse since the ANC has taken power.

Then something should be done to stop these individuals, because now they have a chance to create a new era for themselves and are ruining it with those acts.

[amannddo]

Barbados has a high level of Irish admixture, though.

This Genetic study of the Caribbean unsign 28 AIMs gives:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...07.00398.x/pdf


Barbados (n=95) 89.6% African, 10.2% European, 0.2% Native American

St. Thomas (n=125) 86.8% African, 10.6% European, 2.6% Native American

Jamaica (n=54) 84.4% African, 12.4% Euroepan, 3.2% Native American

Actually, based on phenotypical observation and this genetic study I read, Barbadians are the purest West-Central African types. Take a walk in Bridgetown, Barbados and you will know what I am talking about.

Somewhat ironically, Barbadians also speak more standard dialects of English when compared to Jamaicans, Trinidadians, Belizeans, and Guyanese.

[Lidawka]

EEEEHHHHMMM Jamaica, Barbados and those islands aren't part of Latin America.

)Is a region of the Americas where Romance languages (i.e., those derived from Latin) – particularly Spanish and Portuguese, and variably French – are primarily spoken

According to this study, the percentage of Mulatos + Blacks are these:

1º Dominican R.: 82,7%
2º Cuba: 62,0%
3º Brazil: 45,3%
4º Venezuela: 40,5%
5º Panama: 32,0%
6º Colombia: 24,9%




http://convergencia.uaemex.mx/rev38/38pdf/LIZCANO.pdf

[Gogogo]

Blackest? Are you for real about this thread? And by a black member possibly from SSA. Then again these threads and people do their best to be provocative.


I think genetics (and i'll say it again), is the worst way to guess new world populations. Since its impossible for these populations to test the same way every time. If we look at Demographics then we can get a better judge, of which country has the most predo.black people.

PGBK87,Belize is neither considered fully Caribbean or fully West Indian. So your discussion about English is irrelevant. Since no English speaking Caribbean or West Indian nation has as large a Spanish speaking influence as Belize.

[enactolaelant]

EEEEHHHHMMM Jamaica, Barbados and those islands aren't part of Latin America.

)Is a region of the Americas where Romance languages (i.e., those derived from Latin) – particularly Spanish and Portuguese, and variably French – are primarily spoken

According to this study, the percentage of Mulatos + Blacks are these:

1º Dominican R.: 82,7%
2º Cuba: 62,0%
3º Brazil: 45,3%
4º Venezuela: 40,5%
5º Panama: 32,0%
6º Colombia: 24,9%




http://convergencia.uaemex.mx/rev38/38pdf/LIZCANO.pdf

The OP asked the question for the entire Americas (including the US, Canada, the British, French and Dutch West Indies), not only Latin America, hence the mention of Jamaica, Barbados and the like.

---------- Post added 2010-09-01 at 17:21 ----------

Blackest? Are you for real about this thread? And by a black member possibly from SSA. Then again these threads and people do their best to be provocative.


I think genetics (and i'll say it again), is the worst way to guess new world populations. Since its impossible for these populations to test the same way every time. If we look at Demographics then we can get a better judge, of which country has the most predo.black people.

PGBK87,Belize is neither considered fully Caribbean or fully West Indian. So your discussion about English is irrelevant. Since no English speaking Caribbean or West Indian nation has as large a Spanish speaking influence as Belize.

Where have you been? Your absence has been keenly felt on these parts, at least by some of us.

[Kimmitmelvirm]

The OP asked the question for the entire Americas (including the US, Canada and the rest of the Anglophone world on this hemisphere), not only Latin America, hence the mention of Jamaica, Barbados and the like.

---------- Post added 2010-09-01 at 17:21 ----------



Where have you been? Your absence was keenly felt on these parts, at least by some of us.

I'm just taking a break since I was disgusted at some of the members, and even myself. But every now and again I browse the forum.

[Ervins Dervish]

Blackest? Are you for real about this thread? And by a black member possibly from SSA. Then again these threads and people do their best to be provocative.


I think genetics (and i'll say it again), is the worst way to guess new world populations. Since its impossible for these populations to test the same way every time. If we look at Demographics then we can get a better judge, of which country has the most predo.black people.

PGBK87,Belize is neither considered fully Caribbean or fully West Indian. So your discussion about English is irrelevant. Since no English speaking Caribbean or West Indian nation has as large a Spanish speaking influence as Belize.

You seem offended windie.

Belize is very influence by Latin America, just as the Bahamas is very influence by Yankees. In fact the Bahamas lays OUTSIDE the Caribbean plate (Belize is INSIDE). Do these two facts disqualify the Bahamas from being fully Caribbean or fully West Indian ?????

Your issue must be that Belize is multiracial/mutliethnic and the Bahamas is mostly Black/homogenous.

Belize is both a Central American & West Indian state. We take no sides because we can relate to everyone.

Your opinions are irrelevant because I just left "Bim" (Barbados for those who don't know). That study is probably accurate. Plus what's wrong with being Black???

P.S. Dean Barrow (The PM and father of "Shyne") was the chairman of Caricom last year

[alecaf]

Good for you. Why do you always have to go out of your way to prove how black haitians are?

Because it's relevant to that topic and has the agreement of everyone in the thread up until this post.

[GrileVege]

EEEEHHHHMMM Jamaica, Barbados and those islands aren't part of Latin America.

)Is a region of the Americas where Romance languages (i.e., those derived from Latin) – particularly Spanish and Portuguese, and variably French – are primarily spoken

According to this study, the percentage of Mulatos + Blacks are these:

1º Dominican R.: 82,7%
2º Cuba: 62,0%
3º Brazil: 45,3%
4º Venezuela: 40,5%
5º Panama: 32,0%
6º Colombia: 24,9%




http://convergencia.uaemex.mx/rev38/38pdf/LIZCANO.pdf

I could be mean right now....... But I'll just assume you don't know what "Blackest country in the AMERICAS" means

[bWn4h8QD]

You seem offended windie.

Belize is very influence by Latin America, just as the Bahamas is very influence by Yankees. In fact the Bahamas lays OUTSIDE the Caribbean plate (Belize is INSIDE). Do these two facts disqualify the Bahamas from being fully Caribbean or fully West Indian ?????

Your issue must be that Belize is multiracial/mutliethnic and the Bahamas is mostly Black/homogenous.

Belize is both a Central American & West Indian state. We take no sides because we can relate to everyone.

Your opinions are irrelevant because I just left "Bim" (Barbados for those who don't know). That study is probably accurate. Plus what's wrong with being Black???

P.S. Dean Barrow (The PM and father of "Shyne") was the chairman of Caricom last year

I'm offended at you feeding into the nonsense when you judge countries off of a study. Note: I'm not saying these countries are not pred. black. My problem comes with you treating a genetic study as the finally word. That's why I said demograpics would be a better judge.


I don't have any issues with Belize being multiethnic. It's more diversity than the Bahamas, admittedly. Since the Bahamas is mostly black with whites as a sizeable minority, and smaller numbers of Asians and Latinos. I'm just telling you Belize is rarely mention with the Caribbean or West Indies. Its seen as an in between state. Even more so than the Bahamas. The Bahamas, while out in the Caribbean sea. Has always had multiple Caribbean/west Indian ties.

The Bahamas can't help being associated with America, since its the close country. Some white and black Bahamians were even the first settlers to areas such as coconut grove, South Florida and the Keys.


But still ,Belize is only an associate of the Caribbean and West indies. So of course you can have a CARICOM head. This doesn't make people see you as Caribbean or West Indian. I've never,or hardly seen belizeans on West Indian/caribbean forums. But I do know a Bahamian/Belizean.

[BrandandGeneric]

I'm offended at you feeding into the nonsense when you judge countries off of a study. Note: I'm not saying these countries are not pred. black. My problem comes with you treating a genetic study as the finally word. That's why I said demograpics would be a better judge.


I don't have any issues with Belize being multiethnic. It's more diversity than the Bahamas, admittedly. Since the Bahamas is mostly black with whites as a sizeable minority, and smaller numbers of Asians and Latinos. I'm just telling you Belize is rarely mention with the Caribbean or West Indies. Its seen as an in between state. Even more so than the Bahamas. The Bahamas, while out in the Caribbean sea. Has always had multiple Caribbean/west Indian ties.

The Bahamas can't help being associated with America, since its the close country. Some white and black Bahamians were even the first settlers to areas such as coconut grove, South Florida and the Keys.


But still ,Belize is only an associate of the Caribbean and West indies. So of course you can have a CARICOM head. This doesn't make people see you as Caribbean or West Indian. I've never,or hardly seen belizeans on West Indian/caribbean forums. But I do know a Bahamian/Belizean.

Belize can't help but associate with Central America for the same reason the Bahamas can't help being associated with America.

In fact, the only reason a Bahamian would try to connect with "real" Caribbean people is because the Bahamas is chain of an islands with mostly blacks. Admit it.

You guys have more of a connection with the Gullah/Geechee islands and Bermuda, like Belize has with Jamaica and the Cayman Islands. My great grandfather was mixed race Jamaican.

Once again I believe in the accuracy of the study, because the difference in admixture were menial.

As far as Belize being an West Indies "associate" or whatever, that is a matter of opinion (Yours). I guess we're too diverse and confusing for you.

I live in New York City and have met only two Bahamians EVER. I don't see you Bahamians out on the Labor Day parade at all, but I do see my fellow Belizeans with our own floats too.

And who cares about forums (this one is cool though), I think you should go out and meet people.

[markoiutrfffdsa]

Belize can't help but associate with Central America for the same reason the Bahamas can't help being associated with America.

The Bahamas doesn't associate with the U.S outside of tourism. While Belize has very close ties with Central America.



In fact, the only reason a Bahamian would try to connect with "real" Caribbean people is because the Bahamas is chain of an islands with mostly blacks. Admit it.

You guys have more of a connection with the Gullah/Geechee islands and Bermuda, than Belize has with Jamaica. My great grandfather was mixed race Jamaican. But the Bahamas still has many cultural ties to the English speaking Caribbean. Unlike Belize. Which even has a mestizo ethnic group, unlike any other West Indian or Caribbean nation. Not even in the Guyanas have that. I would say Bermuda even has more English speaking caribbean ties than Belize. Only the English creole language and some Garfuinas (a minority group) traditions even qualifies Belize as West Indian/Caribbean.


Once again I believe in the accuracy of the study, because the difference in admixture were menial.

As far as Belize being an West Indies "associate" or whatever, that is a matter of opinion (Yours). I live in New York City and have met only two Bahamians EVER. I don't see you Bahamians out on the Labor Day parade at all, but I do see my fellow Belizeans with our own floats too.
I believe the accuracy of the study too. As well as those before or after it. But when you look at Caribbean organizations the Bahamas are members of more than just one. Belizean are never classed as caribbean by hardly anyone,despite being the head of Caricom. Which goes to show.
And since you wanted to turn this into a hey look Belize is way more diversity than Barbados and Bahamas. I will address you as accurate as possible.

[ardsdelinq]

The Bahamas doesn't associate with the U.S outside of tourism. While Belize has very close ties with Central America.




But the Bahamas still has many cultural ties to the English speaking Caribbean. Unlike Belize. Which even has a mestizo ethnic group, unlike any other West Indian or Caribbean nation. Not even in the Guyanas have that. I would say Bermuda even has more English speaking caribbean ties than Belize. Only the English creole language and some Garfuinas (a minority group) traditions even qualifies Belize as West Indian/Caribbean.





I believe the accuracy of the study too. As well as those before or after it. But when you look at Caribbean organizations the Bahamas are members of more than just one. Belizean are never classed as caribbean by hardly anyone,despite being the head of Caricom. Which goes to show.
And since you wanted to turn this into a hey look Belize is way more diversity than Barbados and Bahamas. I will address you as accurate as possible.

Well first off large up 2 di Bajan dem. Noh try align yuself wid dem like you know Bajan pipple. Di Bahamas deh furda from Bim dan Belize. So give up.

Your'e a hot mess, and kind of what I thought Bahamians were, but could not verify it. You even sound like an individual that comes from a homogenous society. You seem to have no knowledge of "Latinos". You're quarry is about how Black a country is.. Admit it

Are the Guianas and Trinidad too diverse for you??? What about Trinidad with Coco Panyols? Are the Guianas eliminated for also not being in the Caribbean belt, having Javanese, Hindustanis etc......?????

So because we have Belizeanized Mestizos we're disqualified???
Who are you the "West Indian Gatekeeper" that reside OUTSIDE the the actual Caribbean belt????

Like I said B.E.L.I.Z.E. picks no sides because we can't help but be both.

P.S. The Garinagu (Garifunas) are the truest Caribbeans anyways , and they predate most of all the former English speaking colonies, who are small and seem to dell on this fallacious "West indian" thing, do your research.

[Cemeuncex]

I associate the Bahamas with the three b's. Or West Indian nations with whites as a notable or sizeable ethnic group, as some researcher have done. Bermuda and Barbados being the other two. The Bahamas can't help being out side of the Caribbean sea. While were not Americans. I see how some here have let multiple forum members ejaculate in their mouth. Since they can't stop spreading gossip about others.

You can assume what you want to.

[raskrutkaseo]

Which country in the Americas has the highest percentage of people with African ancestry by the One Drop Rule?

Based on personal first hand life experience, some ethnohistory and a few genetic studies I would guess Haiti.
After Haiti, I would guess some of the Anglophone or Francophone Caribbean islands.

Because it's relevant to that topic and has the agreement of everyone in the thread up until this post.

He stalks all of our posts looking for anything and everything he can morph into troll material.

[avavavava]

Measuring which country has the most African influenced elements in their culture is a bit harder, but I'd say Cuba.
After Cuba, I would guess Haiti and Brazil may come next.
.

Explain?
How is Cuba more culturally African than Haiti?

[RagonaCon]

I associate the Bahamas with the three b's. Or West Indian nations with whites as a notable or sizeable ethnic group, as some researcher have done. Bermuda and Barbados being the other two. The Bahamas can't help being out side of the Caribbean sea. While were not Americans. I see how some here have let multiple forum members ejaculate in their mouth. Since they can't stop spreading gossip about others.

You can assume what you want to.

Somebody sounds like they have nothing else to say........

I WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!