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Old 07-15-2012, 10:23 AM   #21
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You seem to have a lot to tell us don't you? An awful lot considering that you've only been a member of the forum for three weeks.

In my opinion it is always suspicious when someone is coming out with very forthright views in such a short space of time, generally people who are here for the long haul and for the right reasons build up a rapport with fellow forum members, earn their place as established members and then come out with the inflammatory posts.

Forums are communities, and just as you don't say things which risk irritating most people when you enter a new social circle it is inadvisable to do so on a forum. Anyway, have at it; though your original post leaves little scope for discussion, generally discussions are started by someone asking a question, putting an issue on the table and letting others define the course it takes....you've just said what you think.

By the way it's irrationality, not un-rationality. Just so you know.
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:57 PM   #22
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You seem to have a lot to tell us don't you? An awful lot considering that you've only been a member of the forum for three weeks.
People that go around in life with a chip on their shoulders are usually lippy.
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Old 07-15-2012, 08:32 PM   #23
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You seem to have a lot to tell us don't you? An awful lot considering that you've only been a member of the forum for three weeks.

In my opinion it is always suspicious when someone is coming out with very forthright views in such a short space of time, generally people who are here for the long haul and for the right reasons build up a rapport with fellow forum members, earn their place as established members and then come out with the inflammatory posts.

Forums are communities, and just as you don't say things which risk irritating most people when you enter a new social circle it is inadvisable to do so on a forum. Anyway, have at it; though your original post leaves little scope for discussion, generally discussions are started by someone asking a question, putting an issue on the table and letting others define the course it takes....you've just said what you think.

By the way it's irrationality, not un-rationality. Just so you know.
Malcolm X once said "When you are in a fight. Don't let the person who you are fighting with. Dictate to you how you should fight"

You say I have been on the forum for only three weeks. What's your point ?

Black people don’t get a slow, gentle, candy-coated introduction to racism. Never have. White folks shouldn’t get to either. As long as white people insist that the world works for everyone the way it works for them, they won’t get to square one. The vast majority of white people have no real ideological commitment to racism: they’re just intellectually lazy

I have come to the conclusion that most “white” people who talk about racism don’t get it; many don’t even want to get it. They just want to sound off and go home feeling justified that they’re not that bad, and that black people are the prejudiced ones
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Old 07-15-2012, 08:33 PM   #24
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I have come to the conclusion that most “white” people who talk about racism don’t get it; many don’t even want to get it. They just want to sound off and go home feeling justified that they’re not that bad, and that black people are the prejudiced ones
You hypocritically engage in the very same behavior that you denigrate whites for: projecting contrived and stereotypical attitudes about people of other races (white in this case) and projecting the behavior of some onto the many as a way to say "well, hm, all white people are this way; they all hate black people."

I can do it as well: Blacks are seldom aware of when they themselves engage in ethnic demagoguery, specifically of whites, nor are they aware of their own innate anti-white prejudices

Edited addition.

Such an attitude to me can be summed as:

"This white person has offended me ergo I will adopt a permissive, confrontational attitude and cry in public about white racism; I will belittle whites for their hypocrisy."

Do you adopt the same sort of attitude when a non-white person offends you? Does it enter into your mind that you seem to think that black people are only good enough to be victimized, beaten-up, pandered to, etc. by whites? Do you feel better after having condemned white people or, more likely, do you go away still feeling miserable?
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:38 PM   #25
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The reactions of the white racists make every point stated in the OP true.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:39 PM   #26
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The reactions of the white racists make every point stated in the OP true.
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:26 PM   #27
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Old 07-15-2012, 11:37 PM   #28
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The reactions of the white racists make every point stated in the OP true.
A no-win situation for white responders to the OP then, as every reply that they write that a black doesn't agree with can be called 'racist'.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:19 AM   #29
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Malcolm X once said "When you are in a fight. Don't let the person who you are fighting with. Dictate to you how you should fight"
You're here to fight? Well what is the point of that? You won't win, because all you're doing is saying, "White people are hypocrites", that doesn't change the fact that levels of Black crime, teenage pregnancy etc are often higher than White levels of crime, teenage pregnancy etc.

You say I have been on the forum for only three weeks. What's your point ?
My point is that most successful members are not trying to take on an entire race within a few weeks of joining.

Black people don’t get a slow, gentle, candy-coated introduction to racism. Never have. White folks shouldn’t get to either. As long as white people insist that the world works for everyone the way it works for them, they won’t get to square one. The vast majority of white people have no real ideological commitment to racism: they’re just intellectually lazy
And you think this is going to win them over rather than irritate them? That doesn't seem to be what's happened; by addressing this forum you are not addressing the average White person, if anyone on here is racist it is unlikely to be the result of laziness, they will have thought the issue out.

I have come to the conclusion that most “white” people who talk about racism don’t get it; many don’t even want to get it. They just want to sound off and go home feeling justified that they’re not that bad, and that black people are the prejudiced ones
OK.
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:22 AM   #30
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You hypocritically engage in the very same behavior that you denigrate whites for:
I've tried reasoning with this individual before, and it doesn't work. Yes, he does the very same things he accuses others of. He's accused me and other "white" people of condoning and even supporting slavery, while at the same time going on about how African-on-African slavery wasn't all that bad. I've called him out on his hypocrisy many times, with his replies always consisting of more of the same cut-and-paste ranting and generalisations.

He never addresses a single point contrary to his agenda. It's useless.
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Old 07-16-2012, 06:49 AM   #31
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I've tried reasoning with this individual before, and it doesn't work. Yes, he does the very same things he accuses others of. He's accused me and other "white" people of condoning and even supporting slavery, while at the same time going on about how African-on-African slavery wasn't all that bad. I've called him out on his hypocrisy many times, with his replies always consisting of more of the same cut-and-paste ranting and generalisations.

He never addresses a single point contrary to his agenda. It's useless.
To me it seems as if the poster merely wants to engage in abuse and denigration of whites and to act in a passive-aggressive manner towards white responders; such people aren't usually interested in point/counterpoint, merely pandering to the lowest common denominator and, of course, abuse- abuse which is always justified of course due to preprogrammed grudges and hostility in the denigrator.

It's the same sort of baiting that more cretinous whites engage in (there is never a reply to any intelligent rebutting):

"Blacks are all lazy, watermelon-eating, KFC-loving, rap-music-listening criminals!"

But in this case it is:

"Whites are all greedy, covetous closest KKK neo-nazi redneck racists, can't take criticism from the black people they oppress knowingly or unknowingly, etc."

Blah-blah-blah, or just ethnic demagoguery in both cases and neverminding that both are exemplary of contrived stereotypes.

Outside of a theatrical presentation, such commentary is utterly useless rubbish. White people in specific, and people in general, are already entering into a bit of a trap here as the suggestive OP is intended to invite scathing rebukes- any reply that the rabble-rousers disagree with can automatically be howled down as being intolerant. Scathing replies will only make the rabble-rousers feel self-righteously justified. There was a thread recently about the obsession for blacks, black topics, etc. on, of all places, white race forums- a good bit of ridicule took place there. This is a bit of the reverse situation imo- but keep in mind as well that threads of this sort never randomly appear and are usually the work of a dedicated shit-stirrer (like that Stormfront/white power person who was banned for trolling a while ago- what was his name? I forget; seen one, seen em all).
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:41 AM   #32
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Lawl.

I thought the ancient Egyptians were all black?
You thought wrong.
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:44 AM   #33
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Ahh the old Black vs. White feud. It's threads like these that make me happy I don't belong to either group. I can just sit back and laugh at all the crazy remarks/insults both groups toss at one another. I wonder whatever happened to judging people as individuals?
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:48 AM   #34
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Ahh the old Black vs. White feud. It's threads like these that make me happy I don't belong to either group. I can just sit back and laugh at all the crazy remarks/insults both groups toss at one another. I wonder whatever happened to judging people as individuals?
When it comes to Blacks, everything is painted with a broad brush.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:45 AM   #35
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Ahh the old Black vs. White feud. It's threads like these that make me happy I don't belong to either group. I can just sit back and laugh at all the crazy remarks/insults both groups toss at one another. I wonder whatever happened to judging people as individuals?
Imo most people are colorblind until they see these sorts of stupid threads on forums (or other suggestive areas of media), then race and ethnicity suddenly become an issue- it's often in a kneejerk fashion when someone see someone trashing on one's own (i.e. hey this guy's trashing asian/black/white, etc.) and automatically leaps up to become a defender. Who consciously wakes up in the morning and asks himself "I must find a way to hate group Z today?" or says "Now is a perfect day to offend black people/white people!" There're vastly better things to fixate on, like improving one's own character and conduct so as to avoid such fault-finding and such a person has to be an unmitigated boor who can only fixate on the topic of hatred (i.e. think of Mr. Square Moustache, who spent alot of his time ranting endlessly about Jews and other non-Germans).

It's the anonymous nature of the internet that lends itself to people becoming pests and some of the most vitriolic pests online are the constant race-baiters that parade about playing the worn-out (but effective) "blame game" of black blaming white, white blaming black, Jew blaming Arab, the gays being blamed by the straights, etc. A certain level of solidarity with one's birth-group (or sexual group or whatever) is to be expected but there's a level when passes into the realm of the ridiculous.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:03 PM   #36
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When it comes to Blacks, everything is painted with a broad brush.
That's the contradiction about some whites, they cite MLK's "Content of character" half heartedly when it comes to serving their own interests but broad stroke others while hating being broad stroked themselves.

---------- Post added 2012-07-15 at 22:06 ----------

You whites, the ones this OP most applies to are just offend bullies who just had the taste slapped out of your mouths, lol, this world isn't just your world.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:06 PM   #37
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That's the contradiction about some whites, they cite MLK's "Content of character" half heartedly when it comes to serving their own interests but broad stroke others while hating being broad stroked themselves.
Such rhetoric is trite until it's put into practice.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:08 PM   #38
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Such rhetoric is trite until it's put into practice.
Whites have NEVER collectively put that into practice in America.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:12 PM   #39
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Whites have NEVER collectively put that into practice in America.
It's the divide-and-conquer way of modern society and its way of government (i.e. democracy), which tends to divide itself into groups of self-interest rather than into collectives of self-respecting individuals.

Consider:

Political candidate: "It is election time; now I must go and pander to blacks/latinos/etc. for votes and to be self-important."

But the rest of the time the political pundit cares nothing at all for such people.

Looking beyond such false disctinctions and judging people on a purely moral, individual basis is hard to do when modern society, by its very nature, divides, sub-divides, people into castes, groups, races, etc.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:14 PM   #40
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It's the divide-and-conquer way of modern society and its way of government (i.e. democracy), which tends to divide itself into groups of self-interest rather than into collectives of self-respecting individuals.
I repeat it, whites have never put that into practice collectively but always cite MLK's quote when they wish to. go against equality
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