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Old 06-27-2012, 04:07 PM   #21
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Guatemala does have african contribution, for example in their costal region, theres a black community, i think they speak a different language, i am not sure

I always thought nicaragua had more than just a little

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having less than 1% of blacks doesnt mean blacks didnt leave any influence in your country

black influence is diffidently big in Mexico compared to Chile, Argentina, Paraguay, El Salvador, and Bolivia
Really? Give me some examples my foreign friend.
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:11 PM   #22
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Really? Give me some examples my foreign friend.
in Guerrero, Veracruz, Campeche, parts of Oaxaca, and those places you can see black influenced stuff, from the food, to their way of speaking, to their very ssa influence people, please i have read about costa chica blacks and ive seen black in latin america

we cant forget about some important figures of Mexico too, the ones who fought for your independence
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:22 PM   #23
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That's pretty much what I commented, but you actually decided to go into detail.

Btw, what is with your Mexica Movement signature? You ain't even native. You look Mulattoid..
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:27 PM   #24
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That's pretty much what I commented, but you actually decided to go into detail.

Btw, what is with your Mexica Movement signature? You ain't even native. You look Mulattoid..
i look tri-rical but i identify as native, there is nothing wrong with that

we native americans are diverse, trust me, we dont need to look a certain way, there are natives who look white, natives who look zambo, natives who look mestizo or tri-rical like me
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:36 PM   #25
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Hahaha, ok.
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:43 PM   #26
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i look like hugo chavez
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:52 PM   #27
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I think no one will discuss as the answer is obvious.
You are correct it is silly to even discuss this, it is obviously Latin America, especially the countries of Cuba, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, and Brazil have a good deal of West, Central and south eastern African retention in comparison to the English speaking americas, also most of the popular music genre throughout latin america is basically afro latino derive. Also, how many people in the english speaking world still worship yoruba gods such as Yemaya among others.


@op here is a few videos



Cubans




Puerto Rico Bomba




Brazil, i know brazil is not spanish speaking but the language is latin derive similar to spanish and french.
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:03 PM   #28
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Brazil has the biggest afro population outside africa.
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:20 PM   #29
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What about French speaking caribbean islands, Haiti, Guadeloupe, Martinique? Are we part of Latin America?
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:47 PM   #30
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The diaspora have more unity in America but it sheer numbers lies in Latin America. If you took away Brazil it would be as big.
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:46 PM   #31
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Brazil has the biggest afro population outside africa.
Maybe in the past but I doubt that today...USA probably
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:01 PM   #32
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not the US blacks
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:10 PM   #33
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Maybe in the past but I doubt that today...USA probably
http://forum.newzimbabwe.com/index.p...ity-in-brazil/
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:22 PM   #34
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I think it's equal in certain areas of Latin America and English America. Aframs and English-speaking West Indians have a lot of African influence in cuisine. In the Caribbean we've got lots of influences in our music (not dancehall- someone mentioned calypso, but there are others) and things like folk tales, superstitions, etc.

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What about French speaking caribbean islands, Haiti, Guadeloupe, Martinique? Are we part of Latin America?
Non. You guys are closer to us (English speaking Caribbean folks). I was going to say that places like Haiti and Martinique have a lot of African influences in music.

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Old 06-27-2012, 09:41 PM   #35
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I think it's equal in certain areas of Latin America and English America. Aframs and English-speaking West Indians have a lot of African influence in cuisine. In the Caribbean we've got lots of influences in our music (not dancehall- someone mentioned calypso, but there are others) and things like folk tales, superstitions, etc.
I think in the latin american context, African influence is more wide spead in comparison to the english speaking world, which is a fact.

The Yoruba goddess Yemaya, is not only practiced in Cuba by both black and white cubans, but it has spread all over the world to unlikely places.



Yemaya Goddess.

Notice these videos please.



Cuban group.


notice that the people here are mestizo or Amerindians worshiping the Yoruba goddess Yemaya in Mexico

I have never heard a English speaking black or white person talk about Orisa and other West and Central African retentions. However when i encounter some Cubans both black and white, Brazilians we have some interesting conversations about this all the time. In places like Cuba these African believes systems have become part of society. There is no need to go back to Africa for them, because they live it.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:43 PM   #36
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That's false news unless the one drop rule is used. They added in "pardos" to count as "blacks" even though a great deal of "pardos" are largely "multiracial" (with minoritary degree of SSA African ancestry); and in some regions like in the North of Brazil they tend to have more Native American ancestry than SSA African ancestry.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:57 PM   #37
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the dance of Oshun Afro cuban



La Lupe, she sings about the Orishas



This is one of my favorite cuban artist
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:09 PM   #38
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I have never heard a English speaking black or white person talk about Orisa and other West and Central African retentions. However when i encounter some Cubans both black and white, Brazilians we have some interesting conversations about this all the time. In places like Cuba these African believes systems have become part of society. There is no need to go back to Africa for them, because they live it.
I have. Speaking strictly from a USVI standpoint, since that's what I'm closer to, people there tend to be really suspicious and afraid of any sort of Yoruba influenced religion, Obeah, Santeria, Candomble or Vodoun. So they're not going to go around talking about Orishas. But other African retentions are talked about all the time. I grew up hearing stories about Anansi and my cousins scaring the crap out of me with stories about Jumbees coming to get me in my sleep. Lol!

I just think in Latin America the African influence may be more readily seen in religion and some other things, but in English Speaking America it's more seen in others. So, one is not necessarily more African influenced than the other - they both are, but in different ways.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:19 PM   #39
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I have. Speaking strictly from a USVI standpoint, since that's what I'm closer to, people there tend to be really suspicious and afraid of any sort of Yoruba influenced religion, Obeah, Santeria, Candomble or Vodoun. So they're not going to go around talking about Orishas. But other African retentions are talked about all the time. I grew up hearing stories about Anansi and my cousins scaring the crap out of me with stories about Jumbees coming to get me in my sleep. Lol!

I just think in Latin America the African influence may be more readily seen in religion and some other things, but in English Speaking America it's more seen in others. So, one is not necessarily more African influenced than the other - they both are, but in different ways.
Agree, but i think within the latin american contexts namely the countries i mentioned, it branch out to other communities besides Afro descent people, which help facilitate and popularized Afro derive culture. A good example is the old american program "I Love Lucy". Even though it was a comedy.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:56 PM   #40
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That percentage is including the black and the mulatto population...If we were to just have the black population I think the US would be more.

Brazil:

Population: 190,732,694

Black: 6.84%

Mulatto/Multiracial: 43.80%

Black population: 13,046,116

USA:

Population: 308,745,538

Black: 13.6%

Black Population: 42,020,743

Source...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_diaspora
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