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maliboia 06-24-2012 08:51 PM

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From anti immigrant speeches of the ex-PM , it is France.
Sarkozy is a charlatan. He only said those things for populistic reasons.

dolaBeetCeage 06-24-2012 08:58 PM

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Sorry but in what way are you native to England? You are Pakistani in England.
Oh look who it is, the Irish guy who calls himself English but tells me i'm the immigrant!

Seeing as English should be your first language if you were educated and had access to a dictionary you would see that native can describe anyone who was born in a certain land regardless of whether i am a minority or not.
No one is naturally and truly 'native' to any one land!

The following is from the Oxford Dictionary ;

native (na¦tive)
Pronunciation: /ˈneɪtɪv/noun
a person born in a specified place or associated with a place by birth, whether subsequently resident there or not:

a native of Montreala local inhabitant:

New York in the summer was too hot even for the natives.

And lastly I'm not Pakistani, that is a NATIONALITY not an ETHNICITY, do you know the difference?

I'm an ethnic Kashmiri born in England which makes me British, if you have a problem with that go back to Ireland!

bgsavings 06-24-2012 09:02 PM

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Oh look who it is, the Irish guy who calls himself English but tells me i'm the immigrant!

Seeing as English should be your first language if you were educated and had access to a dictionary you would see that native can describe anyone who was born in a certain land regardless of whether i am a minority or not.
No one is naturally and truly 'native' to any one land!

The following is from the Oxford Dictionary ;

native (na¦tive)
Pronunciation: /ˈneɪtɪv/noun
a person born in a specified place or associated with a place by birth, whether subsequently resident there or not:

a native of Montreala local inhabitant:

New York in the summer was too hot even for the natives.

And lastly I'm not Pakistani, that is a NATIONALITY not an ETHNICITY, do you know the difference?

I'm an ethnic Kashmiri born in England which makes me British, if you have a problem with that go back to Ireland!
He's not Irish, he's a Serb who grew up in London. Basically he's British but neither Irish nor English.

ClapekDodki 06-24-2012 09:04 PM

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He's not Irish, he's a Serb who grew up in London. Basically he's British but neither Irish nor English.
Said he was Irish in another thread.
The life of a Troll! http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/sick.gif

UriDepkeeks 06-24-2012 09:18 PM

Andorra & San Marino.

viagra_generic 06-24-2012 09:18 PM

Firstly, we should explain what "racist" means. I tell you because my parents, a couple of stupid progressists, consider Switzerland a racist country because it is correct in defending its borders...

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From anti immigrant speeches of the ex-PM , it is France.
France is full of Blacks, Muslims and so on. Out of the blue, Frenchs will be a minority in their own country.

If Frenchs were "so racist", there would be a genocide like Krajina's.

But a few of them, , have guts to explain how dangerous is the issue.

zlopikanikanzax 06-24-2012 09:38 PM

The most racist parts of England are the Pakistani and Afro-Carribean-African enclaves where they hate English people and all people of European origin.

The vandals had scrawled: "No-go area for whites", "Paki powa", and "Death to whites".

As reported in The Evening Telegraph, Ahmed Ali Awan (22), of Gladstone Street, will serve 18 years, and Shaied Nazir (22), of Cromwell Road, and Sarfraz Ali (25), of Harris Street, will both serve 16 years.

All three were found guilty of murder. -Peterborough Today

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/n...ffiti-1-144031

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/n...rested-1-93347

http://www.thepressnews.co.uk/NewsDetails.asp?id=5547

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-is-named.html

Oh and PS Mista_Justica you are not native to Britain. If your native than Irish Americans are Native Americans. And Pakistani is officially an ethnicity according to the UK census. You are in no way shape or form British, if you're British than Elias is a Swede and Joana Lumley is an Indian, Klitcho is a Kazak and Yassir Arafat and Rudolf Hess and Margaret Hodge are Egyptians, go tell all the Palestinians born in Lebanon they are Lebanese see how they respond go tell a Croat born in Bosnia he is Bosnia or Tibetan born in India.

PPS I am not a Serb I am ethnically British, my father is English, my mother is from Northern Ireland of British blood.

bortycuz 06-24-2012 09:46 PM

When I went to Rome there were swastikas and other crypto-white supremacist symbols spray painted everywhere.

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The most racist parts of England are the Pakistani and Afro-Carribean-African enclaves where they hate English people and all people of European origin.

The vandals had scrawled: "No-go area for whites", "Paki powa", and "Death to whites".

As reported in The Evening Telegraph, Ahmed Ali Awan (22), of Gladstone Street, will serve 18 years, and Shaied Nazir (22), of Cromwell Road, and Sarfraz Ali (25), of Harris Street, will both serve 16 years.

All three were found guilty of murder. -Peterborough Today

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/n...ffiti-1-144031

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/n...rested-1-93347

http://www.thepressnews.co.uk/NewsDetails.asp?id=5547

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-is-named.html

Oh and PS Mista_Justica you are not native to Britain. If your native than Irish Americans are Native Americans. And Pakistani is officially an ethnicity according to the UK census. You are in no way shape or form British, if you're British than Elias is a Swede and Joana Lumley is an Indian, Klitcho is a Kazak and Yassir Arafat and Rudolf Hess and Margaret Hodge are Egyptians, go tell all the Palestinians born in Lebanon they are Lebanese see how they respond go tell a Croat born in Bosnia he is Bosnia or Tibetan born in India.

PPS I am not a Serb I am ethnically British, my father is English, my mother is from Northern Ireland of British blood.
You're lucky that Brittain will actually report anti-white crime as racially motivated. US news will never say this no matter how obvious a case might be. US news will almost never mention the race of criminals unless they are white.

Take the whole Trayvon Martin case for example. The only reason that blew up and hit national news was because at first it was being reported as a "White man" who "gunned down an unarmed black teenager". After Zimmerman's pictures came out people were shocked and the media struggled to try to classify him as a "white hispanic". Now they finally call him a person of "multi-racial background".

Tyncneiff 06-24-2012 09:55 PM

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When I went to Rome there were swastikas and other crypto-white supremacist symbols spray painted everywhere.
And you can find the hummer and sickle painted in my own street (true history)... which represents a more criminal ideology even than nazism.

tactWeiccaf 06-24-2012 10:04 PM

Italy is certainly among the most racist, yes.

Polish-style racism is more "I hate everyone who is different from me", but Italian-style racism is different. It's cultural supremacy, snobbishness, etc.

Well, the racial prejudice can be found in either country. Not much in the form of violence in Italy, it's more subtle. Bananas and monkey chants for black footballers, people proudly espousing fascist beliefs in the open, etc.

Sarbrienna 06-24-2012 10:13 PM

I think the issue isn't about individual racism but about states which support or tolerate racism. I've never been to Europe and I don't know the context of their racial or ethnic issues but I'm pretty shocked to hear news reports about soccer games in some countries in Europe where people flash neo-nazi signs, wave nazi flags and throw bananas at black soccer players.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...ting-fireworks

I know there are probably a lot of social/economic issues in Europe but I think racism coming from minorities or non-minorities is wrong and it seems like some European countries have a ways to go. Racism is a global issue and occurs in many countries in the world so I'm not singling out Europe but I think a lot needs to be done in certain countries.

leoto5Fm 06-24-2012 10:17 PM

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Firstly, we should explain what "racist" means. I tell you because my parents, a couple of stupid progressists, consider Switzerland a racist country because it is correct in defending its borders...

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France is full of Blacks, Muslims and so on. Out of the blue, Frenchs will be a minority in their own country.

If Frenchs were "so racist", there would be a genocide like Krajina's.

But a few of them, , have guts to explain how dangerous is the issue.
I beg your pardon, did you say "genocide" by France ? Then, check the links carefully.

Algeria:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=7Fmq7RIGjA8

http://img.blogcu.com/uploads/realgenocide_algerian.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/...54_468x594.jpg

Rwanda:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7542418.stm

Zfdeisde 06-24-2012 10:22 PM

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I think the issue isn't about individual racism but about states which support or tolerate racism. I've never been to Europe and I don't know the context of their racial or ethnic issues but I'm pretty shocked to hear news reports about soccer games in some countries in Europe where people flash neo-nazi signs, wave nazi flags and throw bananas at black soccer players.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...ting-fireworks

I know there are probably a lot of social/economic issues in Europe but I think racism coming from minorities or non-minorities is wrong and it seems like some European countries have a ways to go.
Firstly, you are willing to forbid nazis flags but...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sickle.svg.png

... are you willing to forbid that sign too? I don't know whether it's your case but I see a lot of hypocresy claiming against fascims symbology while allowing communist's, which represents Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Pol Pot, Honecker... more deaths, tortures and crimes than nazism...

Secondly, you are wrong if you think european state are "tolerating racism": they are spreading racism, allowing everybody to enter into the continent... that's the reason of the rising of Marine Le Pen in France, for example.

Annyllop21 06-24-2012 10:25 PM

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Firstly, you are willing to forbid nazis flags but...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sickle.svg.png

... are you willing to forbid that sign too? I don't know whether it's your case but I see a lot of hypocresy claiming against fascims symbology while allowing communist's, which represents Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Pol Pot, Honecker... more deaths, tortures and crimes than nazism...

Secondly, you are wrong if you think european state are "tolerating racism": they are spreading racism, allowing everybody to enter into the continent... that's the reason of the rising of Marine Le Pen in France, for example.

Re-read my post I said racism from any group is wrong. I don't see any difference between either sign.

Garry Richardson 06-24-2012 10:31 PM

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I beg your pardon, did you say "genocide" by France ? Then, check the links carefully.

Algeria:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=7Fmq7RIGjA8

Rwanda:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7542418.stm
Firstly, the average French hasn't nothing to do with the policies of their country fifty years ago. It's not his/her fault! For God's sake, it would be like blaming Catalans for our murders in Greece around 14th century.

Secondly, we can blame western governments to take economical advantage of wars in Africa... okay, but they kill among them willingly... I mean, in 1994 they began a genocide with machine-guns but 500 years ago they began genocides with arrows and knives anyway. Do you know what happened in Haiti when black population were set free?

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Re-read my post I said racism from any group is wrong. I don't see any difference between either sign.
That's why I said: I don't know whether it's your case...

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DoctoNilsonDen 06-24-2012 10:42 PM

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Firstly, the average French hasn't nothing to do with the policies of their country fifty years ago. It's not his/her fault! For God's sake, it would be like blaming Catalans for our murders in Greece around 14th century.

Secondly, we can blame western governments to take economical advantage of wars in Africa... okay, but they kill among them willingly... I mean, in 1994 they began a genocide with machine-guns but 500 years ago they began genocides with arrows and knives anyway. Do you know what happened in Haiti when black population were set free?

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That's why I said: I don't know whether it's your case...

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1. Generally all European countries( except eastern) tend to genocide. We can understand this after reading a little history.

2. I just wonder if the peope in Africa had used to kill eachother before white arrived there .

Soadiassy 06-24-2012 10:44 PM

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I think the issue isn't about individual racism but about states which support or tolerate racism. I've never been to Europe and I don't know the context of their racial or ethnic issues but I'm pretty shocked to hear news reports about soccer games in some countries in Europe where people flash neo-nazi signs, wave nazi flags and throw bananas at black soccer players.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...ting-fireworks

I know there are probably a lot of social/economic issues in Europe but I think racism coming from minorities or non-minorities is wrong and it seems like some European countries have a ways to go. Racism is a global issue and occurs in many countries in the world so I'm not singling out Europe but I think a lot needs to be done in certain countries.
Blacks make up a miniscule part of Croatia's population. Racism against blacks can't be an issue there because of the low number of blacks. How can something be an issue when it's absolutely not relevant for almost all of the population?

Gaxiciverfere 06-24-2012 10:48 PM

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1. Generally all European countries tend to genocide. We can understand this after reading a little history.
Only European countries? What about ?


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2. I just wonder if the peope in Africa had used to kill eachother before white arrived there .
For sure. For example, how do you think Portugueses used to get black slaves? Because black tribes fought each others, and the winner sold their prisoners to Europeans.

But there is no need to travel to Africa. In the USA we can see something similar: one of three Blacks between 20 and 30 years old have problems with Law (prison, trials...).

And well... we could talk about the differences between Jamaica and New Zealand, two countries settled by different genetical population but with the same chances...

JOR4qxYH 06-24-2012 10:53 PM

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1. Generally all European countries( except eastern) tend to genocide. We can understand this after reading a little history.
I heard Turks are good at it too.
2. I just wonder if the peope in Africa had used to kill eachother before white arrived there . Are you kidding me? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/laugh.gifhttp://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/whoco.gif Humans, no matter where in the world or at what time, have engaged in warfare. This silly imagination about the peaceful savage who got brutalized by the White man is just an imagination.

Imihooniump 06-24-2012 11:02 PM

I am not good at Black History of ancient times so i think a Black people could answer the question "kill eachother before white arrived?" much correctly.

Idriz,

We are a peaceful nation who have success of uniting many races under same flag ,without any conflict inside, for a thousand years.


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