[genna]

I am studying latin american studies and it's very surprising to see how dfferent mexicans are from other spanish speaking groups here in America.

From a statistical point of view speaking Mexicans tend to be poorer than south American nationalities, they also have a higher incidence of teen pregnancy compared to other latinos, and are more likely to drop out of school.

For example look at this graphic
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gn...est-fertility/


it shows the birth rates for different nationalities in America and compare the cuban and puerto rican to that of the mexicans, while other latinos have birth rates similar to that of whites, mexicans on the other hand are pretty much thru the roof.

other issues like education show a huge differential gap between mexicans and other latinos.
http://www.eduinreview.com/scholarsh...arship-219152/
for example 65% of all first generation cuban Americans are college graduates
54% of all first generation Colombian americans are college graduates
while only 4% of all first generation mexican americans are college grads

Health, mexicans are by far next to blacks the nationalities with highest obesity rate in America, while other non-mexican latinos have obesity rates even inferior to that of the whites.

I am trying to understand, what is so different about immigration from mexico versus immigration from let's say south america that makes them so different?

any one knowledgeable on the matter care to explain?

[Mangoman]

Well.. there are a lot more Mexicans than Cubans and Colombians in the US.. that might explain it.

Also, to go to America from Mexico, you just have to cross the border, which isn't really hard as we know.. To go to the USA from Cuba or Colombia, you'll have to do a few more things, which sometimes require to have a certain quantity of money, or maybe even to belong to the middle-upper classes of those countries. You've gotta get money to fly, etc..

Same with my country, Chile.. Chileans in Argentina aren't really educated. Same with Argentines in Chile.

BUT Chileans and Argentines in Australia tend to be really educated, and to belong to the middle class of that country.. Different to people from countries which are close to Australia, such as Indonesia or the Philippines.

[seodiary]

^ not such a bad explanation actually.

[ditpiler]

I agree it's cause there are more Mexicans than other latino groups.
Also, since Mexico is so close, a lot of Mexicans move here with the intention of someday going back.
That mindset alone plays a big role, even though they may end up staying here permanently anyway, they don't really "plan ahead" prior to moving here. They kinda just wing it and hope for the best. As to which people from other nationalities, DO seem to plan ahead. Cause if they are going to have to jump 3,4,5,6 borders they better plan to stay.


Edit: I think the macho culture also seems to play a pretty big role. From other latino countries, in my opinion, Mexico tends to be the most patriarchal. Although a lot of Mexican women do work, a lot of them also still play the 'housewife' role. And not to bring other nationalities down, but props to Mexican men who are the hardest working at labor intensive jobs. They pride themselves in their hard work, and not in the money their work brings them.

[BakerBonce]

I agree with most of the above sentiments.

It's mostly a matter of numbers and geography. Mexicans have advantages with both.

[Kristoferson]

Well.. there are a lot more Mexicans than Cubans and Colombians in the US.. that might explain it.

Also, to go to America from Mexico, you just have to cross the border, which isn't really hard as we know.. To go to the USA from Cuba or Colombia, you'll have to do a few more things, which sometimes require to have a certain quantity of money, or maybe even to belong to the middle-upper classes of those countries. You've gotta get money to fly, etc..

Same with my country, Chile.. Chileans in Argentina aren't really educated. Same with Argentines in Chile.

BUT Chileans and Argentines in Australia tend to be really educated, and to belong to the middle class of that country.. Different to people from countries which are close to Australia, such as Indonesia or the Philippines.

Agree. If most of the Americans immigrating to other countries were coming from rural America I'm quite sure people would think the same. The urban affluent Mexicans are not migrating at the same rate that the working class/high poverty populations are. Anybody working in rural impoverished parts of the US will see similar stats.

[Andrius]

Well.. there are a lot more Mexicans than Cubans and Colombians in the US.. that might explain it.

Also, to go to America from Mexico, you just have to cross the border, which isn't really hard as we know.. To go to the USA from Cuba or Colombia, you'll have to do a few more things, which sometimes require to have a certain quantity of money, or maybe even to belong to the middle-upper classes of those countries. You've gotta get money to fly, etc..

Same with my country, Chile.. Chileans in Argentina aren't really educated. Same with Argentines in Chile.

BUT Chileans and Argentines in Australia tend to be really educated, and to belong to the middle class of that country.. Different to people from countries which are close to Australia, such as Indonesia or the Philippines.

Yeah, but as long as the Castros remain, Cubans will ever have a tremendous advantage over all which can be summed by the "wet feet-dry feet" policy. It also helps the fact that the average Cuban seem to be better prepared educationally than the average Mexican and/or Central American indomestizo.

[thehhhyips]

Mexicans arent even considered as Latino in the NE

[sFs4aOok]

Mexicans arent even considered as Latino in the NE

Kind of dumb considering the term in reference to the new world comes from Mexico.

[DoctorNiCYDEn]

Mexicans arent even considered as Latino in the NE

That's the first time I ever heard this. Whenever Latino/Hispanic is brought up, Mexican Americans are the first that come to mind (except in Miami and New York City of course). Either way im all for a seperate category for Americans of Mexican descent, if the other Latinos want to alienate those of us of Mexican descent that is

[Qauunet]

That's the first time I ever heard this. Whenever Latino/Hispanic is brought up, Mexican Americans are the first that come to mind (except in Miami and New York City of course). Either way im all for a seperate category for Americans of Mexican descent, if the other Latinos want to alienate those of us of Mexican descent that is

That would be the political equivalent of committing seppuku, don't you think?



For the rest of us, that is.

[GroosteFoessy]

For me they are as different as a Cuban, every Spanish speaking country has their uniqueness.

[CKDIWEQ]

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2011/05/2...igin-profiles/

Here are some interesting statistics for the OP. We are not all that different from other Hispanics like the OP is trying to claim (well except for birth rates that is).

[bensabath]

Like they have stated before, Mexico is only inches away from the USA and it is much easier for an uneducated Mexican peasant to cross the border than, let's say, someone from Venezuela. This Venezuelan will need a LOT of money to come to the USA so, most likely, the one making the trip will be an upper-middle class Venezuelan and, of course, there will be a big difference between an educated, rich Venezuelan and a poor, uneducated Mexican.

Unlike most poor South Americans, Mexicans don't go to Spain because it is much easier and cheaper to jump a fence than cross the Atlantic. Since t is easier for South Americans to travel to Spain than the USA, the poor peasants from Bolivia, Ecuador, Chile or Peru end up going to this European country to work as maids or construction workers, while the upper-middle class Mexicans only go there for college or vacation, the latter as seen as more sophisticated and who are there to better themselves, not to leach-off the systemm unlike the South Americans.

[slimsex]

That's the first time I ever heard this. Whenever Latino/Hispanic is brought up, Mexican Americans are the first that come to mind (except in Miami and New York City of course). Either way im all for a seperate category for Americans of Mexican descent, if the other Latinos want to alienate those of us of Mexican descent that is

In Boston, when people say Latino, usually Puerto Rican, Dominican, and Honduran are what come to the minds of most Bostonians.

---------- Post added 2012-06-24 at 21:13 ----------

while the upper-middle class Mexicans only go there for college or vacation, the latter as seen as more sophisticated and who are there to better themselves, not to leach-off the systemm unlike the South Americans.

Y'all Mexicans take a lot of vacations. I've noticed that.

[9rCR9hWL]

Like they have stated before, Mexico is only inches away from the USA and it is much easier for an uneducated Mexican peasant to cross the border than, let's say, someone from Venezuelan. This Venezuelan will need a LOT of money to come to the USA so, most likely, the one making the trip will be an upper-middle class Venezuelan and, of course, there will be a big difference between an educated, rich Venezuelan and a poor, uneducated Mexican.

Unlike most poor South Americans, Mexicans don't go to Spain because it is much easier and cheaper to jump a fence than cross the Atlantic. Since t is easier for South Americans to travel to Spain, the poor peasants from Bolivia, Ecuador, Chile or Peru end up going to this European country to work as maids or construction workers, while the upper-middle class Mexicans only go there for college or vacation, the latter as seen as more sophisticated and who are there to better themselves, not to leach-off the systemm unlike the South Americans.

Umm no. Actually a poor Chilean peasant stays in Chile. Chileans don't tend to emigrate.

Do you know how many Chileans were there in Spain in 2006? 39.700

Do you know how many Mexicans were there in Spain in 2006? 40.500

There are more Nigerians, Russians and Pakistanis in Spain than Chileans.

[QQ9ktYrV]

Umm no. Actually a poor Chilean peasant stays in Chile. Chileans don't tend to emigrate.

Do you know how many Chileans were there in Spain in 2006? 39.700

Do you know how many Mexicans were there in Spain in 2006? 40.500

There are more Nigerians, Russians and Pakistanis in Spain than Chileans.

I'm LMAO, literally.

So, you're allowed to speak on behalf of Mexicans but I'm not allowed to speak about Chileans? Don't get butt hurt just because I included your country among the filthy Ecuadoreans, Peruvians and Bolivians LOL.

Also, there are millions of poor Mexicans who stay in Mexico, many don't even think of ever migrating to the USA and many educated, middle-class Mexicans do migrate to the USA and also to Spain for better jobs in the corporate world so don't assume that Mexican migration= poor, indigenous peasants.

Hay de todo en la viña del Señor, querida.

---------- Post added 2012-06-24 at 18:38 ----------

Y'all Mexicans take a lot of vacations. I've noticed that.

Marllon, we're cool, right? But I don't understand what you mean by this, is it supposed to be sarcastic or something? What exactly are you implying by this.

[Shemker394]

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2011/05/2...igin-profiles/

Here are some interesting statistics for the OP. We are not all that different from other Hispanics like the OP is trying to claim (well except for birth rates that is).

Central and South Americans have higher birth rates than Mexicans in the USA. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr60/nvsr60_01.pdf (page 29)