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egershna 06-13-2012 12:25 PM

People claim to be Cherokee
 
but don't resemble or look Cherokee and have no idea about Cherokee culture, traditions and values.

I love fake people. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/laugh.gif


Real Cherokees
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Look at these fake Cherokees. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...expression.gif
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Zvmwissq 06-13-2012 12:29 PM

The last two people in the right could past for native americans or this case Cherokee. However the other people within the picture is very doubtful, but sometimes you never know.



However as far as many these self proclaimed Cherokees among the European american and Afram population, which seems to be numerous, i seriously doubt such claims to to the Cherokee population, which logically don't add up!

Coededgeme 06-13-2012 12:33 PM

How can you be proud or claim a culture that you're ignorant of?

Almost all the individuals that I've met claiming to be Cherokee have no knowledge of the Cherokee culture.

I've met a Greek who boasted about Greek pride. Then when I mentioned to him about Greek Pagans, he bashed and called them retards. I find that absolutely funny.

toopyimport 06-13-2012 12:38 PM

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How can you be proud or claim a culture that you're ignorant of?

Almost all the individuals that I've met claiming to be Cherokee have no knowledge of the Cherokee culture.

I've met a Greek who boasted about Greek pride. Then when I mentioned to him about Greek Pagans, he bashed and called them retards. I find that absolutely funny.
I can empathize with the greeks situation, from their perspective that is the old culture, which is very different from what people believe now.

Also, i am not sure of the education level in Greece in regards in educating the people of their ancient heritage.

vTLWqa1l 06-13-2012 12:39 PM

Don't you have to be a card carrying Cherokee to claim you are? I have a co-worker who tells me she's a direct descendant of Pocahontas...http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/confused.gif ...

feqlmwtuqx 06-13-2012 12:41 PM

Strangely, I can go into a native american culture and understand it....

I guess coming from a shamanistic culture, I can related to many native american rituals/traditions.

VladFal 06-13-2012 12:43 PM

Why do you such an objection to their claims? Do you feel they aren't real claims or they should learn the culture?

broksaksaak 06-13-2012 12:44 PM

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Strangely, I can go into a native american culture and understand it....

I guess coming from a shamanistic culture, I can related to many native american rituals/traditions.
However the question is do the Cherokee still practice shamanism?, what i understand about them they were considered the so called civilize tribe in the past. Since they adopted certain European customs and acquired slaves as well. I read that somewhere, in my American history coarse in College.

sessoorale 06-13-2012 12:45 PM

I feel they aren't real claims.

I am mixed of various ethnic groups, but I don't practice their cultures, so I don't claim their cultures or ethnic identity.

So, anyone who claims to be part of a culture and does not know the culture truly cannot claim the culture.

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However the question is do the Cherokee still practice that shamanism?, what i understand about them they were considered the so called civilize tribe in the past. Since they adopted certain European customs and acquired slaves as well. I read that somewhere, in my American history coarse in College.
Actually, although shamanism died among many native american cultures, it's still largely part of many of their traditions and customs, just like how european pagan traditions were incorporated into christianity.

textarchive 06-13-2012 12:52 PM

I have Cherokee ancestry through my mother! I think it's my grandmother that's Cherokee and Hispanic. I don't know what band she is, nor am I affiliated with any tribe. I don't know much about Cherokees. Haha I visited New Echota once http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/smile.gif

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Don't you have to be a card carrying Cherokee to claim you are? I have a co-worker who tells me she's a direct descendant of Pocahontas...http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/confused.gif ...
Haha Pocahontas wasn't even Cherokee! http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/laugh.gif[COLOR="Silver"]

freevideoandoicsI 06-13-2012 12:55 PM

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Don't you have to be a card carrying Cherokee to claim you are? I have a co-worker who tells me she's a direct descendant of Pocahontas...http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/confused.gif ...
If she descends from an old Virginia family called the red Bollings, then she is telling you the truth. They descend from Pocahontas' son with John Rolfe whom was born not long before she died. There are lots of red Bollings around today. One of the most famous was Edith Bolling Galt Wilson, Woodrow Wilson's second wife who some feel ran the country after his stroke.

tsaaapla 06-13-2012 12:59 PM

I agree with the spirit of your post. I was recently determined to have some small fraction of Native American ancestry but it means nothing to me as far as identification. I identify more with my colonial ancestors who fought with Native Americans. Frankly speaking, I only identify as American, although I acknowledge my Japanese ancestry because it is recent and I had some cultural influence from a native born Japanese in my childhood and as an adult. Some specs of NA ancestry in my chromosome painting with a hypothesis of its possible origin mean nothing to me, other than to serve as an academic curiosity.

johnstylet 06-13-2012 01:19 PM

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If she descends from an old Virginia family called the red Bollings, then she is telling you the truth. They descend from Pocahontas' son with John Rolfe whom was born not long before she died. There are lots of red Bollings around today. One of the most famous was Edith Bolling Galt Wilson, Woodrow Wilson's second wife who some feel ran the country after his stroke.
She's originally from West Virginia..maybe she really is

lopushok 06-13-2012 01:30 PM

My paternal grandmother was part Choctaw and looked it. I got genetical proof of my claims. Most Americans can only saw Cherokee because its the most known Native American tribe in the US.

UriyVlasov 06-13-2012 02:23 PM

You learn more about certain Native American groups so I think it's just a lack of broader knowledge on our part. With the Internet, so much more information is available. Things will change.

gogona 06-14-2012 03:02 AM

my grandmother had high cheekbones and straight black hair!

orison 06-14-2012 03:05 AM

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My paternal grandmother was part Choctaw and looked it. I got genetical proof of my claims. Most Americans can only saw Cherokee because its the most known Native American tribe in the US.
You took a test can you say what company it was and what your results were?


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