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Old 06-09-2012, 08:56 AM   #21
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Lesser of two evils(There's always someone that's has one irksome/nonsensical view on an issue). I hoped Fred Karger would still be in this...He was nonpartisan but now I see he was moved to a Republican ticket. All in all though...I don't know what to think about Obama's presidency thus far. Was he not handed a rotten deal because he inherited the economy that was on the brink of a recession? Or is the consensus that it was his fault? Did we expect that he would magically fix things in one term? I made a list of all of the candidates last year and crossed out the political loonies(Cain, Bachmann. Have you heard her speak?) Pawlenty had some good ideas too...Coupled with experience.
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:15 AM   #22
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This argument not entirely valid, as Black vote is usually over 90% Democrat and by your logic a lot of White people voted for McCain because he is White.
Yes, blacks always vote overwhelmingly Democratic but many did vote for Obama because he's black. One example is Samuel L. Jackson.
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:21 AM   #23
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In my opinion, Uncle Toms are generally better people than regular African-Americans.
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Old 06-09-2012, 08:34 PM   #24
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This argument not entirely valid, as Black vote is usually over 90% Democrat and by your logic a lot of White people voted for McCain because he is White.
thats why i followed up with "and he's a democrat". if he was a republican he wouldn't have gotten the black vote. that year saw a large black voter turnout, when in general its rather small. and i've definitely heard people say straight up "i voted for him because he's black and i want to see one of my people in the white house"


white people ar less likely to vote on racial lines, because they are already so well represented already. whats the point in voting for based on race when 90% of the people running are your color. believe it when i say if an asian president comes along he's going to secure the asian vote, or hispanic securing hispanic votes over a white person in the same party etc. its just how shit is. sure there will be some to go against the grain and vote for the opponent but in general people vote for people who they feel more comfortable with and who they can relate to. when you are a minority its even doubly true.
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:03 PM   #25
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I wish Colin Powell ran, Obama is an uncle Thomas.
Ironic that Powell himself was called a Tom until he endorsed Obama.

The "lesser of two evils" is still an evil. I'm not voting for Obama or Romney. They're "evil".
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:33 PM   #26
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yes, thats the beauty of it!
dude has no connection to american slavery whatsoever, and grew up with his white family.. i don't see how this is a factual statement.
Neither does Powell duncey. He's a first generation Jamaican-American and an MGM.

I wish Colin Powell ran, Obama is an uncle Thomas.
Ironic that Powell himself was called a Tom until he endorsed Obama.
That's because he is. You guys just want a Black John Kerry
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:35 PM   #27
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Neither does Powell duncey. He's a first generation Jamaican-American and an MGM.
And Jamaican blacks weren't descended from slaves?

Obama's ancestors certainly were free men.

That's because he is. You guys just want a Black John Kerry
Who am I being lumped with, exactly?

I didn't vote for the white John Kerry.

I'm either voting for Ron Paul, Joseph Kony, or Gary Johnson.
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:40 PM   #28
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And Jamaican blacks weren't descended from slaves?

Obama's ancestors certainly were free men.
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yes, thats the beauty of it!
dude has no connection to american slavery whatsoever, and grew up with his white family.. i don't see how this is a factual statement.
Jamaican slavery and socio-political history is ions away from US slavery and socio-political history.


Who am I being lumped with, exactly?

I didn't vote for the white John Kerry.

I'm either voting for Ron Paul, Joseph Kony, or Gary Johnson. The change is in the 99%. It doesn't matter who's president. I put money in my pocket....
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:43 PM   #29
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There'll never be an outsider president. The closest was Kennedy, and he was killed for it.

In the meantime, his dad was still a mega millionaire.
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Old 06-09-2012, 10:36 PM   #30
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Barry was puffed up by white leftists and he's always been "the great white hope." KRS-One was right on the money when he said something like "they just put a black face on the new world order." A few have even called him a house negro, implying that he's simply a suck-up/lackey to people like the Clintons, Pelosi, Reid, etc. (i.e. the white leftist establishment).

The guy has no executive experience political whatsoever and I've even heard a couple of dems moaning about how they wish Hillary was elected over this clown.

Somewhat older but lawl:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...n-chances.html
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Old 06-10-2012, 01:51 AM   #31
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Neither does Powell duncey. He's a first generation Jamaican-American and an MGM.




That's because he is. You guys just want a Black John Kerry
Powell was never an Uncle Tom except to hardcore leftist Negroes.

---------- Post added 2012-06-09 at 11:53 ----------

In my opinion, Uncle Toms are generally better people than regular African-Americans.
Are you an Uncle Tom because you sound like one.
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Old 06-10-2012, 03:50 AM   #32
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Are you an Uncle Tom because you sound like one.
he's right though.




probably one of the most respected me on the right side of the aisle.
I have all of his books./
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Old 06-10-2012, 04:46 AM   #33
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The majority of blacks in the US vote Democrat.

The southern Democrats founded the Klan. Notorious southern bigot Bull Connor was a Democrat, as was Robert Byrd (who was also in the Klan).

Abolitionists, white and black, were all northern Republicans. What became Civil Rights was begun by Republicans like Eisenhower; Dixiecrats consistently opposed civil rights and fair treatment for blacks in the US. A Republican President (Grant) passed the 15th Amendment, granting equality to voters regardless of race, ethnicity, etc. Grant was also one of the few generals who openly supported blacks in the Union soldiery during the Civil War.

Very few blacks in the US vote Republican nowadays (they used to in the old days, very consistently since Republican = abolitionist/Democrat = slavery) and those that do are called Uncle Tom. Allen West, JC Watts, Alan Keyes, etc. = all Uncle Toms. I suppose Martin Luther King was an Uncle Tom for being a Republican too? And Frederick Douglass too? He was a Republican and an ex-slave.

Etc. Most Americans are pathetically stupid on these historical tidbits. White liberals, aka the Democratic Party, are the ones who've always treated blacks in the US in a disgustingly patronizing fashion - not the Republicans. All the Dems want is for blacks in to be "good ol negros" and vote for the Democratic party, regardless of how bad it is for black Americans, regardless of the consequences, etc. What's sad to me is that blacks in the US have been fooled into thinking they're better off with the political party of choice of the defunct slave-owning class rather than the political party of the abolitionists.
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Old 06-10-2012, 04:59 AM   #34
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Are you an Uncle Tom because you sound like one.
How could you say something like that? You should know that my great-great-grandfather invented peanut butter and the traffic light. My greatest great of all great-grandfathers built the pyramids through his internationally-renown African architectural dexterity.
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