[Longwow]

They should at least let the players go to Hawaii and get a lei

It is not even in Hawaii this year, it's in New Orleans.

[PriernPayorse]

The serious fan isn't really a concern of the NFL. Serious fans are hooked no matter what.
It's the casual fan they are after. Those are the people watching the Pro Bowl. They don't realize it sucks.

are you saying fahvra isn't a serious fan?

[njfeedd3w]

It's not necessarily a good decision, because it ultimately should affect it's earning power.

I realize some people dislike the Pro Bowl, and that's fine, because I'm one of them.
But lots of people, like fahvra, still watch the game for various reasons.

When the Pro Bowl is aired, those of us who dislike it can just choose not to watch. We have that option.
When it's not aired, those people who want to watch lose that option.

Let's not pretend that some sort of compelling programming will be put in that time slot.

Aw c'mon I really was looking forward to WSOP "The Early Years"
Anyway if they replaced it w/ one of those Glitzy Awards Shows, would they not have just as much exposure for the league and the revenues from showing that over and over and over.....

[yxn2dC07]

Never said that or implied that.
The earning power is decreased because they are taking away an earning opportunity for the networks, who will be asking for concessions for the loss of revenue. I thought I had made that part clear earlier.

Who is to say the NFL won't replace the Pro Bowl with an event that makes even more money for the networks.

[ashleyjoseph]

Who is to say the NFL won't replace the Pro Bowl with an event that makes even more money for the networks.

More money for the networks or more money for the NFL?

[nakeseireo]

Never said that or implied that.
The earning power is decreased because they are taking away an earning opportunity for the networks, who will be asking for concessions for the loss of revenue. I thought I had made that part clear earlier.

Clearly not.

[ffdfriendforurr]

It is not even in Hawaii this year, it's in New Orleans.

I was speaking of the game they are no longer going to have.

So they are not going to have it in New Orleans either?

I heard they might not play it in Anchorage Alaska also.

[Mr Andrews]

They should have a skills competition instead. Have receivers try to catch a pass thrown from a helecopter, have the quarterbacks try to hit a bunch of moving targets...stuff like that.

[yxn2dC07]

More money for the networks or more money for the NFL?

Both, either. Doesn't matter to me.

[12ZHeWZa]

The serious fan isn't really a concern of the NFL. Serious fans are hooked no matter what.
It's the casual fan they are after. Those are the people watching the Pro Bowl. They don't realize it sucks.

I beg to differ to a degree. The think the NFL is concerned about the serious fan as well as the casual one. Hence the proposal to end the pro bowl. I know its not the only reason why but you would have to imagine that after the last pro bowl the powers that be were thinking, yikes, what a joke. You're right, the serious fan is hooked but if the product that is put out on the field becomes ridiculous than they may not lose any serious fans but it may hinder their interest a bit.

[FYvWldC0]

I always love the Pro Bowl going back to the 80s early 90s when you could only watch it if you had cable and I didnt, so if I got a chance to see a few Packer helmets running around out there it was always exciting, especially because at that point in my life I had NEVER seen a post season game involving the Packers so the Pro Bowl was it for me. The play has really dropped off but I have never hated it like some of you here that treat it like it fucked your mother, sister and wife or something.

[FYvWldC0]

They should have a skills competition instead. Have receivers try to catch a pass thrown from a helecopter, have the quarterbacks try to hit a bunch of moving targets...stuff like that.

they used to do that shit and then wouldnt air it til mid summer so they could garner more ratings. that always pissed me off that we couldnt see it right away.

[ffdfriendforurr]

They should have a skills competition instead. Have receivers try to catch a pass thrown from a helecopter, have the quarterbacks try to hit a bunch of moving targets...stuff like that.

How about "The Bounty Bowl"

[ashleyjoseph]

How about "The Bounty Bowl"

That's fantastic. Just fantastic.

[12ZHeWZa]

I always love the Pro Bowl going back to the 80s early 90s when you could only watch it if you had cable and I didnt, so if I got a chance to see a few Packer helmets running around out there it was always exciting, especially because at that point in my life I had NEVER seen a post season game involving the Packers so the Pro Bowl was it for me. The play has really dropped off but I have never hated it like some of you here that treat it like it fucked your mother, sister and wife or something.

Lol. This is why I appreciate your posts Fahvra, you have a way of putting things so eloquently.

[ffdfriendforurr]

I always love the Pro Bowl going back to the 80s early 90s when you could only watch it if you had cable and I didnt, so if I got a chance to see a few Packer helmets running around out there it was always exciting, especially because at that point in my life I had NEVER seen a post season game involving the Packers so the Pro Bowl was it for me. The play has really dropped off but I have never hated it like some of you here that treat it like it fucked your mother, sister and wife or something.

Only in the years where Antonio Cromrtie makes it...

[shenacatro]

I beg to differ to a degree. The think the NFL is concerned about the serious fan as well as the casual one. Hence the proposal to end the pro bowl. I know its not the only reason why but you would have to imagine that after the last pro bowl the powers that be were thinking, yikes, what a joke. You're right, the serious fan is hooked but if the product that is put out on the field becomes ridiculous than they may not lose any serious fans but it may hinder their interest a bit.

The serious fan is going nowhere. They likely haven't watched the Pro Bowl in years, unless they enjoy it, in which case they'll be saddened that it's gone.

I'm always amazed at people who beg for things to be taken off the air. I'm not a fan of 2 1/2 Men, but apparently many people like it, and more power to them. I have the ability to change the channel. They don't have the ability to watch a show that isn't aired.

If you don't watch the Pro Bowl, then why are you complaining that it's horrible? Just don't watch it. They aren't going to replace it with a playoff game or regular season game.

At least not this year.

Basically removing the game just means no break from the Super Bowl storylines. We just went back in time 2 years is all.


I have to wonder if this is the beginning of the end for the NFL Network live games. That concession I mentioned the network that carried the Pro Bowl will want, and the way to increase revenues, would be to put that expanded package of Thursday Night games up for sale, and give the network that lost the Pro Bowl right of first refusal--they can match the best offer if they so choose.

[Friend_Joe]

i care about every single mock draft, more than the pro bowl.


that ought to tell you a lot.

[Friend_Joe]

How about replacing it with an all star game of freshman vs sophmores. at least then maybe someone would actually try hard.

[12ZHeWZa]

The serious fan is going nowhere. They likely haven't watched the Pro Bowl in years, unless they enjoy it, in which case they'll be saddened that it's gone.

I'm always amazed at people who beg for things to be taken off the air. I'm not a fan of 2 1/2 Men, but apparently many people like it, and more power to them. I have the ability to change the channel. They don't have the ability to watch a show that isn't aired.

If you don't watch the Pro Bowl, then why are you complaining that it's horrible? Just don't watch it. They aren't going to replace it with a playoff game or regular season game.

At least not this year.

Basically removing the game just means no break from the Super Bowl storylines. We just went back in time 2 years is all.


I have to wonder if this is the beginning of the end for the NFL Network live games. That concession I mentioned the network that carried the Pro Bowl will want, and the way to increase revenues, would be to put that expanded package of Thursday Night games up for sale, and give the network that lost the Pro Bowl right of first refusal--they can match the best offer if they so choose.

So...I have to watch it to bitch about it? I think its a joke, IMO. I could care less if they play it or not because I know it means nothing for my team other then recognition for some of the players playing outstanding during the season or how popular they are. I know money will be lost but that doesnt concern me cause none of it is going in my pocket.