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**FYvWldC0** · 02-04-2012, 04:37 AM

slap on the wrist.

**gnusnich** · 02-04-2012, 04:40 AM

Yeah, a friggen agent is putting up money to the players for bounties to injure players. Yep, nothing to see here.

**CuittisIL** · 02-04-2012, 04:54 AM

Yeah, a friggen agent is putting up money to the players for bounties to injure players. Yep, nothing to see here.

Not an agent, a merchandiser and a convicted felon.

**FYvWldC0** · 02-04-2012, 05:02 AM

Yeah, a friggen agent is putting up money to the players for bounties to injure players. Yep, nothing to see here.

it all depends on what they can prove and if they can prove so and so knew about it when it happened.

**CuittisIL** · 02-04-2012, 05:06 AM

it all depends on what they can prove and if they can prove so and so knew about it when it happened.

3 year investigation.

They don't need to to take this court.

The Saints will lose draft picks, Payton will be suspended. Perhaps other sanctions.

**PriernPayorse** · 02-04-2012, 05:11 AM

Get a good lawyer, find a loophole

**GetsTan** · 02-04-2012, 05:12 AM

Bounties are against the rules.

They broke the rules.

I don't care that they broke the rules. You shouldn't either.

**CuittisIL** · 02-04-2012, 05:16 AM

Get a good lawyer, find a loophole

LOL.

This aint going to court.

It's the NFL and they are going to dish out the punishment.

**PriernPayorse** · 02-04-2012, 05:16 AM

I don't care that they broke the rules. You shouldn't either.

He only cares if teams he doesnt like cheat....

**GetsTan** · 02-04-2012, 05:21 AM

He only cares if teams he doesnt like cheat....

It's not like the Saints were busted for using PEDs. Then they'd really be assholes.

**ITYfl01c** · 02-04-2012, 05:34 AM

It's not like the Saints were busted for using PEDs. Then they'd really be assholes.

I see what you did there.

**vaalmerruutel** · 02-04-2012, 05:41 AM

So, Buddy Ryan was an innovator, way ahead of his time.

**CuittisIL** · 03-03-2012, 02:20 PM

It's not like the Saints were busted for using PEDs. Then they'd really be assholes.

If they did, and someone in the NFL office leaked the results, then the Currier handled the samples against established procedures, you would have a point.

As it is, the NFL is being sued for causing concussions and they have been asked by the NFLPA to crack down on concussions.

**nakeseireo** · 03-03-2012, 04:40 PM

Because he's making it up?

I see.

Probably similar to the guy who said Braun had herpes.

**CuittisIL** · 03-03-2012, 05:01 PM

Probably similar to the guy who said Braun had herpes.

Yeah.

Because that was right on the MLB website?

Nice try.

It isn't rumor or innuendo; its right their on NFL.com

**nakeseireo** · 03-03-2012, 05:06 PM

Yeah.

Because that was right on the MLB website?

Nice try.

It isn't rumor or innuendo; its right their on NFL.com

The conversation was about Mike Freeman and waiting for a real reporter. Mike Freeman doesn't work for NFL.com.

**PriernPayorse** · 03-03-2012, 05:14 PM

If they did, and someone in the NFL office leaked the results, then the Currier handled the samples against established procedures, you would have a point.

As it is, the NFL is being sued for causing concussions and they have been asked by the NFLPA to crack down on concussions.

to be fair the courier followed set procedure set by the MLB and agreed to by the players union.

**PriernPayorse** · 03-03-2012, 05:15 PM

The conversation was about Mike Freeman and waiting for a real reporter. Mike Freeman doesn't work for NFL.com.

Lets not get facts in the way of a good argument. It's not Rog's strong point.

**TeapseTic** · 03-03-2012, 05:23 PM

I am wondering, If I Pay someone to injure or maim my neighbor, isn't that a crime? And if that beating results in a death, Im never going to see the light of day.

So, If on the football field, its exempt from the laws in this country?

I realize Bit hits and Injuries happen. But the Injury side tends to be bad luck. To receive payment and place a bounty on someone just seems it would have to outside the law. Could there be bigger things coming from this depending on what proof there is?

**nofkayalk** · 03-03-2012, 05:25 PM

I don't really care if the players put up their own money for a pool. Whatever. Big hits are part of the game. You don't think, bounty or not, players aren't trying to hurt star players? I'm not talking broken necks or torn ACL's or something, but little dings that will knock them out for a game or two, or at the least, hamper their effectiveness.

Where it gets to be an issue to me is when people other than players put up money.

Coaches, and especially owners, begin to put up money, and they can now entice free agents to come with the promise of more money. Encentives that aren't in the contract, thus not counting against the cap.

I especially don't like it that someone from outside the organization was involved. As was mentioned earlier in the thread, there's a good chance he was betting on these games. If this is allowed to continue, we're only a few steps away from gamblers controlling the games again...

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FYvWldC0 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 535 Senior Member	slap on the wrist. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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gnusnich Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 409 Senior Member	Yeah, a friggen agent is putting up money to the players for bounties to injure players. Yep, nothing to see here. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-04-2012, 04:54 AM	#43
CuittisIL Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 726 Senior Member	Yeah, a friggen agent is putting up money to the players for bounties to injure players. Yep, nothing to see here. Not an agent, a merchandiser and a convicted felon. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-04-2012, 05:02 AM	#44
FYvWldC0 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 535 Senior Member	Yeah, a friggen agent is putting up money to the players for bounties to injure players. Yep, nothing to see here. it all depends on what they can prove and if they can prove so and so knew about it when it happened. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-04-2012, 05:06 AM	#45
CuittisIL Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 726 Senior Member	it all depends on what they can prove and if they can prove so and so knew about it when it happened. 3 year investigation. They don't need to to take this court. The Saints will lose draft picks, Payton will be suspended. Perhaps other sanctions. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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PriernPayorse Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	Get a good lawyer, find a loophole Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-04-2012, 05:12 AM	#47
GetsTan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 691 Senior Member	Bounties are against the rules. They broke the rules. I don't care that they broke the rules. You shouldn't either. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-04-2012, 05:16 AM	#48
CuittisIL Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 726 Senior Member	Get a good lawyer, find a loophole LOL. This aint going to court. It's the NFL and they are going to dish out the punishment. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-04-2012, 05:21 AM	#50
GetsTan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 691 Senior Member	He only cares if teams he doesnt like cheat.... It's not like the Saints were busted for using PEDs. Then they'd really be assholes. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-04-2012, 05:34 AM	#51
ITYfl01c Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 309 Senior Member	It's not like the Saints were busted for using PEDs. Then they'd really be assholes. I see what you did there. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-03-2012, 02:20 PM	#53
CuittisIL Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 726 Senior Member	It's not like the Saints were busted for using PEDs. Then they'd really be assholes. If they did, and someone in the NFL office leaked the results, then the Currier handled the samples against established procedures, you would have a point. As it is, the NFL is being sued for causing concussions and they have been asked by the NFLPA to crack down on concussions. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-03-2012, 04:40 PM	#54
nakeseireo Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 391 Senior Member	Because he's making it up? I see. Probably similar to the guy who said Braun had herpes. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-03-2012, 05:01 PM	#55
CuittisIL Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 726 Senior Member	Probably similar to the guy who said Braun had herpes. Yeah. Because that was right on the MLB website? Nice try. It isn't rumor or innuendo; its right their on NFL.com Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-03-2012, 05:06 PM	#56
nakeseireo Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 391 Senior Member	Yeah. Because that was right on the MLB website? Nice try. It isn't rumor or innuendo; its right their on NFL.com The conversation was about Mike Freeman and waiting for a real reporter. Mike Freeman doesn't work for NFL.com. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-03-2012, 05:14 PM	#57
PriernPayorse Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	If they did, and someone in the NFL office leaked the results, then the Currier handled the samples against established procedures, you would have a point. As it is, the NFL is being sued for causing concussions and they have been asked by the NFLPA to crack down on concussions. to be fair the courier followed set procedure set by the MLB and agreed to by the players union. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-03-2012, 05:15 PM	#58
PriernPayorse Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	The conversation was about Mike Freeman and waiting for a real reporter. Mike Freeman doesn't work for NFL.com. Lets not get facts in the way of a good argument. It's not Rog's strong point. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-03-2012, 05:23 PM	#59
TeapseTic Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 517 Senior Member	I am wondering, If I Pay someone to injure or maim my neighbor, isn't that a crime? And if that beating results in a death, Im never going to see the light of day. So, If on the football field, its exempt from the laws in this country? I realize Bit hits and Injuries happen. But the Injury side tends to be bad luck. To receive payment and place a bounty on someone just seems it would have to outside the law. Could there be bigger things coming from this depending on what proof there is? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-03-2012, 05:25 PM	#60
nofkayalk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 396 Senior Member	I don't really care if the players put up their own money for a pool. Whatever. Big hits are part of the game. You don't think, bounty or not, players aren't trying to hurt star players? I'm not talking broken necks or torn ACL's or something, but little dings that will knock them out for a game or two, or at the least, hamper their effectiveness. Where it gets to be an issue to me is when people other than players put up money. Coaches, and especially owners, begin to put up money, and they can now entice free agents to come with the promise of more money. Encentives that aren't in the contract, thus not counting against the cap. I especially don't like it that someone from outside the organization was involved. As was mentioned earlier in the thread, there's a good chance he was betting on these games. If this is allowed to continue, we're only a few steps away from gamblers controlling the games again... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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