[Tainlyferfara]

Vick was a turnover machine this season. If he was in the NFC playoffs he would be the worst QB by every single measurable. Really, just admit that he was awful this season. Or don't, and get down to Novacare with your donut delivery.
You are a pathetic homer.

Eli 6 fumbles, 16 ints
Vick 2 fumbles, 13 ints

Vick played in 3 less games but it still doesn't fit your argument.

[career-builder]

This is rich coming from a Packers fan who needed a good bit of help getting into the playoffs before they won the super bowl.

Packers didnt NEED any help getting in, 'genius'.

Once the Giants crapped the bed prior to going to Lambeau, Packers had control of its own destiny if they won their last two games.

Which they did.

IF thats what you consider 'a good bit of help', you need not try an defend yourself anymore.

Your arguments are now moot.

[Tainlyferfara]

Packers didnt NEED any help getting in, 'genius'.

Once the Giants crapped the bed prior to going to Lambeau, Packers had control of its own destiny if they won their last two games.

Which they did.

IF thats what you consider 'a good bit of help', you need not try an defend yourself anymore.

Your arguments are now moot.

The Packers didn't need any help getting in, but then you go on to describe the help they did need. Got it.

[Tainlyferfara]

There is why the Giants are not well rounded...they are terrible in the secondary. 28th ranked defense in the league.

[spamkillerf]

Eli 6 fumbles, 16 ints
Vick 2 fumbles, 13 ints

Vick played in 3 less games but it still doesn't fit your argument.

28 to 15 certainly does. And Eli ain't done yet.

Seriously, are you trying to make a case that the Eagles are dangerous this season because of Mike Vick? Do you even watch the games?

Mike Vick kept a totally outmatched football team in the game until late in the third quarter today. Don't try to deny it because even Fatso said so. It was typical of his play all season and, in fact, down the stretch last season.

Don't give me Mike Vick. He's got a lot of work to do to be considered an elite QB.

[spamkillerf]

Packers didnt NEED any help getting in, 'genius'.

Once the Giants crapped the bed prior to going to Lambeau, Packers had control of its own destiny if they won their last two games.

Which they did.

IF thats what you consider 'a good bit of help', you need not try an defend yourself anymore.

Your arguments are now moot.

He's a walking, talking moot argument.

[Tainlyferfara]

Mike Vick kept a totally outmatched football team in the game until late in the third quarter today. Don't try to deny it because even Fatso said so. It was typical of his play all season and, in fact, down the stretch last season.

This is the same team Eli lost to twice right? You're the one that claimed Eli is more dangerous than Vick.

[Tainlyferfara]

He's a walking, talking moot argument.

Seriously?

They will compete for sure, which they wouldn't do with the slop they had at QB. The Redskins are players now. Shanahan will know how to maximize McNabb's abilities, unlike Reid.
Can you say, 'play action'?

[spamkillerf]

This is the same team Eli lost to twice right? You're the one that claimed Eli is more dangerous than Vick.

What exactly is Eli playing for tonight? What did Vick play for today? And last week? And, for all intents and purposes the two weeks before that?

You're a joke.

[Tainlyferfara]

What exactly is Eli playing for tonight? What did Vick play for today? And last week? And, for all intents and purposes the two weeks before that?

You're a joke.

That's fantastic, my argument is not that the Eagles should be in the playoffs over the Giants. The Eagles made their bed and they get to lay in it now. But if you are asking me if the Falcons had a choice of who they would like to play, they absolutely would pick the Giants or the Cowboys over the Eagles.

[Tainlyferfara]

Thought it was a penalty to simulate the snap like that...rarely does it get called though...

[spamkillerf]

That's fantastic, my argument is not that the Eagles should be in the playoffs over the Giants. The Eagles made their bed and they get to lay in it now. But if you are asking me if the Falcons had a choice of who they would like to play, they absolutely would pick the Giants or the Cowboys over the Eagles.

...link...

And I don't mean a quote from Andy Reid.

Maybe if Eli continues to play in the postseason, Mike Vick can replace him in the Pro Bowl.

[Tainlyferfara]

...link...

And I don't mean a quote from Andy Reid.

Maybe if Eli continues to play in the postseason, Mike Vick can replace him in the Pro Bowl.

If I was a reporter in Atlanta I would ask...but if I'm a defensive coordinator having to gameplan which would you pick?

Eli, Bradshaw, Cruz, Nicks, Pascoe

Vick, Mccoy, Jackson, Maclin, Celek

[career-builder]

The Packers didn't need any help getting in, but then you go on to describe the help they did need. Got it.

You really are thick.

This isnt like Oakland LOSING the last game of the season today so Denver gets in.

Giants self destructed in Week 15. Hell, why dont you just go back to Week 5 or 6 then. Scratch that.

You probably would.

[Tainlyferfara]

You really are thick.

This isnt like Oakland LOSING the last game of the season today so Denver gets in.

Giants self destructed in Week 15. Hell, why dont you just go back to Week 5 or 6 then. Scratch that.

You probably would.

You needed a team in week 15 to overcome a 21 point deficit with 8 minutes left in the 4th quarter...that's almost as improbable as a team completing a 4th and 26.

[spamkillerf]

If I was a reporter in Atlanta I would ask...but if I'm a defensive coordinator having to gameplan which would you pick?

Eli, Bradshaw, Cruz, Nicks, Pascoe

Vick, Mccoy, Jackson, Maclin, Celek

Nobody in Atlanta cares. NOBODY.

Get over it. 8-8 doesn't scare anybody.

[Tainlyferfara]

Nobody in Atlanta cares. NOBODY.

Get over it. 8-8 doesn't scare anybody.

Another deflection, You want to continue to drag this back to that when it's not what we are discussing. Just so we are clear, if you were a defensive cordinator you would fear this team of talent Eli, Bradshaw, Cruz, Nicks, Pascoe over Vick, Mccoy, Jackson, Maclin, Celek.

[career-builder]

You needed a team in week 15 to overcome a 21 point deficit with 8 minutes left in the 4th quarter...that's almost as improbable as a team completing a 4th and 26.

Only thing more improbable is the Eagles winning the Super Bowl.

Let me know when the 'vaunted' Mike Vick led Eagles do.

[Tainlyferfara]

Only thing more improbable is the Eagles winning the Super Bowl.

Let me know when the 'vaunted' Mike Vick led Eagles do.

Maybe next year bro, maybe.

[spamkillerf]

It's a joke that Victor Cruz is not in the Pro Bowl.

But then again. nothing to fear about him.