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**emupsMaispubs** · 10-13-2011, 07:44 PM

I'm confused why everyone is talking about Tebow's 4-10 when He also ran for 38 yards and a touchdown. It's my understanding that His rushing yards would go into the QBR equation.

**en-druzhba** · 10-14-2011, 12:27 AM

I'm confused why everyone is talking about Tebow's 4-10 when He also ran for 38 yards and a touchdown. It's my understanding that His rushing yards would go into the QBR equation.

Rushing yards are factored in. Problem is when you suck so much at passing the football there is no reason why any QB rating system should say that Tebow was better than Aaron Rodgers last week.

**career-builder** · 10-14-2011, 12:34 AM

Rushing yards are factored in. Problem is when you suck so much at passing the football there is no reason why any QB rating system should say that Tebow was better than Aaron Rodgers last week.

Or ANY week for that matter.

**cheaploans** · 10-14-2011, 01:22 PM

I'm confused why everyone is talking about Tebow's 4-10 when He also ran for 38 yards and a touchdown. It's my understanding that His rushing yards would go into the QBR equation.

that still doesnt mean he had a better game than someone with three times the stats.

QBR is a joke, even Alex Smith would tell you that.

**Ifroham4** · 10-14-2011, 01:44 PM

it was skewed because the sample size was so small. And to point out, in a little over a quarters worth of work, he did produce two touch downs.

What they need to not include people in the discussion that dont attempt at least X number of passes. Like what they do in baseball when talking about batting avg leaders.

**Qynvtlur** · 10-14-2011, 04:22 PM

it was skewed because the sample size was so small. And to point out, in a little over a quarters worth of work, he did produce two touch downs.

What they need to not include people in the discussion that dont attempt at least X number of passes. Like what they do in baseball when talking about batting avg leaders.

They also weight the stats in the fourth quarter with more value.

So its the Chicago Bears fans version of QB rating, really, where the backup QB is always better than the starter.

**emupsMaispubs** · 10-14-2011, 04:26 PM

that still doesnt mean he had a better game than someone with three times the stats.

QBR is a joke, even Alex Smith would tell you that.

Tim Tebow is a winner. Whether you like it or not, that fact isn't going to change.

**cheaploans** · 10-14-2011, 05:21 PM

Tim Tebow is a winner. Whether you like it or not, that fact isn't going to change.

thats not a fact. He hasnt won anything in the NFL besides a starting job that is.

**LeslieMoran** · 10-14-2011, 05:30 PM

Tim Tebow is a winner. Whether you like it or not, that fact isn't going to change.

Because he won in college? Plenty of QBs won in college and flamed out in the NFL.

**emupsMaispubs** · 10-14-2011, 05:38 PM

thats not a fact. He hasnt won anything in the NFL besides a starting job that is.

He's also won the hearts of millions, possibly billions.

**emupsMaispubs** · 10-14-2011, 05:39 PM

Because he won in college? Plenty of QBs won in college and flamed out in the NFL.

You can correct me if I'm wrong, but none of those QBs were Tim Tebow. No one knows the future but the way the Broncos entire team reacted when Tebow was put in was impressive, to say the least.

**LeslieMoran** · 10-14-2011, 05:55 PM

You can correct me if I'm wrong, but none of those QBs were Tim Tebow. No one knows the future but the way the Broncos entire team reacted when Tebow was put in was impressive, to say the least.

So he may be a winner. Then again, his bad mechanics and reckless style make prevent him from being a winner.

**PaulRyansew** · 10-16-2011, 11:51 PM

I think Beck's performance today should put him with a great chance to outperform Rodgers in QBR this week.

**xochex** · 10-16-2011, 11:55 PM

I think Beck's performance today should put him with a great chance to outperform Rodgers in QBR this week.

He doesn't need super humans like Jordy Nelson to turn modest gains into huge plays.

**PaulRyansew** · 10-16-2011, 11:56 PM

He doesn't need super humans like Jordy Nelson to turn modest gains into huge plays.

You do have a point there...Jordy Nelson is a top 5 receiver in the NFL.

**xochex** · 10-16-2011, 11:57 PM

You do have a point there...Jordy Nelson is a top 5 receiver in the NFL.

Top 5 athlete in the history of the world.

**PaulRyansew** · 10-16-2011, 11:58 PM

Top 5 athlete in the history of the world.

Well, I wouldn't go there...Athlete is a pretty strong term, considering he's white.

**xochex** · 10-16-2011, 11:59 PM

Well, I wouldn't go there...Athlete is a pretty strong term, considering he's white.

He's not so much white as he is a bright light of solid energy.

**amusaasyday** · 10-17-2011, 03:24 AM

He's not so much white as he is a bright light of solid energy.

Part man, part electricity.

**LeslieMoran** · 10-17-2011, 06:49 PM

More evidence that QBR sux:

Week 6 passer rating: 119.6
NFL rank: 1
Week 6 QBR: 91.9
NFL rank: 2
Comment: Rodgers received his second-highest QBR of the season even though the Packers went scoreless in the second half. His three touchdown passes in the second quarter established a lead the St. Louis Rams never threatened. If you want to know why the Atlanta Falcons' Matt Ryan (92.5) finished higher despite a 163-yard day: ESPN analytics reports Ryan received significant credit for two passes into the end zone that resulted in pass interference, giving the Falcons first-and-goal on each occasion. Ryan also completed all three of his third-down passes in the fourth quarter. That's the explanation I received. http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth

10-13-2011, 07:44 PM	#1
emupsMaispubs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 467 Senior Member	I'm confused why everyone is talking about Tebow's 4-10 when He also ran for 38 yards and a touchdown. It's my understanding that His rushing yards would go into the QBR equation. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-14-2011, 12:27 AM	#2
en-druzhba Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 471 Senior Member	I'm confused why everyone is talking about Tebow's 4-10 when He also ran for 38 yards and a touchdown. It's my understanding that His rushing yards would go into the QBR equation. Rushing yards are factored in. Problem is when you suck so much at passing the football there is no reason why any QB rating system should say that Tebow was better than Aaron Rodgers last week. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-14-2011, 12:34 AM	#3
career-builder Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 484 Senior Member	Rushing yards are factored in. Problem is when you suck so much at passing the football there is no reason why any QB rating system should say that Tebow was better than Aaron Rodgers last week. Or ANY week for that matter. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-14-2011, 01:22 PM	#4
cheaploans Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 486 Senior Member	I'm confused why everyone is talking about Tebow's 4-10 when He also ran for 38 yards and a touchdown. It's my understanding that His rushing yards would go into the QBR equation. that still doesnt mean he had a better game than someone with three times the stats. QBR is a joke, even Alex Smith would tell you that. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-14-2011, 01:44 PM	#5
Ifroham4 Join Date Apr 2007 Posts 5,196 Senior Member	it was skewed because the sample size was so small. And to point out, in a little over a quarters worth of work, he did produce two touch downs. What they need to not include people in the discussion that dont attempt at least X number of passes. Like what they do in baseball when talking about batting avg leaders. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-14-2011, 04:22 PM	#6
Qynvtlur Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 407 Senior Member	it was skewed because the sample size was so small. And to point out, in a little over a quarters worth of work, he did produce two touch downs. What they need to not include people in the discussion that dont attempt at least X number of passes. Like what they do in baseball when talking about batting avg leaders. They also weight the stats in the fourth quarter with more value. So its the Chicago Bears fans version of QB rating, really, where the backup QB is always better than the starter. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-14-2011, 04:26 PM	#7
emupsMaispubs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 467 Senior Member	that still doesnt mean he had a better game than someone with three times the stats. QBR is a joke, even Alex Smith would tell you that. Tim Tebow is a winner. Whether you like it or not, that fact isn't going to change. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-14-2011, 05:21 PM	#8
cheaploans Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 486 Senior Member	Tim Tebow is a winner. Whether you like it or not, that fact isn't going to change. thats not a fact. He hasnt won anything in the NFL besides a starting job that is. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-14-2011, 05:30 PM	#9
LeslieMoran Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 604 Senior Member	Tim Tebow is a winner. Whether you like it or not, that fact isn't going to change. Because he won in college? Plenty of QBs won in college and flamed out in the NFL. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-14-2011, 05:38 PM	#10
emupsMaispubs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 467 Senior Member	thats not a fact. He hasnt won anything in the NFL besides a starting job that is. He's also won the hearts of millions, possibly billions. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-14-2011, 05:39 PM	#11
emupsMaispubs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 467 Senior Member	Because he won in college? Plenty of QBs won in college and flamed out in the NFL. You can correct me if I'm wrong, but none of those QBs were Tim Tebow. No one knows the future but the way the Broncos entire team reacted when Tebow was put in was impressive, to say the least. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-14-2011, 05:55 PM	#12
LeslieMoran Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 604 Senior Member	You can correct me if I'm wrong, but none of those QBs were Tim Tebow. No one knows the future but the way the Broncos entire team reacted when Tebow was put in was impressive, to say the least. So he may be a winner. Then again, his bad mechanics and reckless style make prevent him from being a winner. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-16-2011, 11:51 PM	#13
PaulRyansew Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 408 Senior Member	I think Beck's performance today should put him with a great chance to outperform Rodgers in QBR this week. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-16-2011, 11:55 PM	#14
xochex Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 572 Senior Member	I think Beck's performance today should put him with a great chance to outperform Rodgers in QBR this week. He doesn't need super humans like Jordy Nelson to turn modest gains into huge plays. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-16-2011, 11:56 PM	#15
PaulRyansew Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 408 Senior Member	He doesn't need super humans like Jordy Nelson to turn modest gains into huge plays. You do have a point there...Jordy Nelson is a top 5 receiver in the NFL. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-16-2011, 11:57 PM	#16
xochex Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 572 Senior Member	You do have a point there...Jordy Nelson is a top 5 receiver in the NFL. Top 5 athlete in the history of the world. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-16-2011, 11:58 PM	#17
PaulRyansew Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 408 Senior Member	Top 5 athlete in the history of the world. Well, I wouldn't go there...Athlete is a pretty strong term, considering he's white. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-16-2011, 11:59 PM	#18
xochex Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 572 Senior Member	Well, I wouldn't go there...Athlete is a pretty strong term, considering he's white. He's not so much white as he is a bright light of solid energy. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-17-2011, 03:24 AM	#19
amusaasyday Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 566 Senior Member	He's not so much white as he is a bright light of solid energy. Part man, part electricity. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-17-2011, 06:49 PM	#20
LeslieMoran Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 604 Senior Member	More evidence that QBR sux: Week 6 passer rating: 119.6 NFL rank: 1 Week 6 QBR: 91.9 NFL rank: 2 Comment: Rodgers received his second-highest QBR of the season even though the Packers went scoreless in the second half. His three touchdown passes in the second quarter established a lead the St. Louis Rams never threatened. If you want to know why the Atlanta Falcons' Matt Ryan (92.5) finished higher despite a 163-yard day: ESPN analytics reports Ryan received significant credit for two passes into the end zone that resulted in pass interference, giving the Falcons first-and-goal on each occasion. Ryan also completed all three of his third-down passes in the fourth quarter. That's the explanation I received. http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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