[vqIo7X2U]

"The union left a very good deal on the table," the NFL said in a statement. "It included an offer to narrow the player compensation gap that existed in the negotiations by splitting the difference; guarantee reallocation of savings from first-round rookies to veterans and retirees without negatively affecting compensation for rounds 2-7; ensure no compensation reduction for veterans; implement new year-round health and safety rules; retain the current 16-4 season format for at least two years with any subsequent changes subject to the approval of the league and union; and establish a new legacy fund for retired players ($82 million contributed by the owners over the next two years).
"The union was offered financial disclosure of audited league and club profitability information that is not even shared with the NFL clubs.
"The expanded health and safety rules would include a reduction in offseason programs of five weeks (from 14 to nine) and of OTAs (Organized Team Activities) from 14 to 10; significant reductions in the amount of contact in practices; and other changes."
New York Giants owner John Mara, Panthers owner Jerry Richardson and Cowboys owner Jerry Jones joined NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to address the media after the union decided to decertify.
"The union's poisiton on core economic issues has been, 'take it or leave it,'" said Mara, who has been at the negotiating table for most of the last week. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...=breaking_news

[corkBrobe]

This means the league can't lock them out.

It also means they can impose thier own rules- 6 year free agents, 18 game season, no cap, etc.

The players are all now independent contractors and can sue individually.

It goes to the courts.

[Cyncceply]

This means the league can't lock them out.

It also means they can impose thier own rules- 6 year free agents, 18 game season, no cap, etc.

The players are all now independent contractors and can sue individually.

It goes to the courts.

This isn't the first time the union has decertified, but I don't recall the ramifications of it before, or even when it actually happened, but I know I read before that they not only decertified, but actually stayed that way for awhile.

[Poowssnople]

Why should the NFL show the players their full books. I don't get to tell my boss I want to see the full books so I can get the best payout. Why should they? Also, I can get a good wage from my employer without seeing their full books. The NFL players can also.

[ffflyer]

Heard this right at 2:00pm PST on the radio.

As a client of mine says, "Now they've really gone and crapped in the chili."

[BV6lwvXf]

Why should the NFL show the players their full books. I don't get to tell my boss I want to see the full books so I can get the best payout. Why should they? Also, I can get a good wage from my employer without seeing their full books. The NFL players can also.

Do you get a percentage of the profits like the players do? That's why they need to know that what the owners are telling them is the truth, and they're not shaving a billion right off the top (on top of what's already been negotiated).

[bestworkothlo]

Why should the NFL show the players their full books. I don't get to tell my boss I want to see the full books so I can get the best payout. Why should they? Also, I can get a good wage from my employer without seeing their full books. The NFL players can also.

Well, for one thing, they were hiding $4 billion of TV revenue in a fund to help them withstand the lockout they were planning.

For another thing, they are the ones who pulled out of the CBA early becasue they claimed they weren't doing well and they want the union to give back a percentage of the TV money.

[AgindyMinnife]

This isn't the first time the union has decertified, but I don't recall the ramifications of it before, or even when it actually happened, but I know I read before that they not only decertified, but actually stayed that way for awhile.

What happened was that individual players like Keith Jackson and Reggie White sued the league.

The result was free agency.

[Gazeboss]

Do you get a percentage of the profits like the players do? That's why they need to know that what the owners are telling them is the truth, and they're not shaving a billion right off the top (on top of what's already been negotiated).

I think that is a myth. Its not like the players are going to have to pay the owners back if a team is operating at a loss. The owners have earned the right to say, "This is our aggregate figures and they show a steady decline since the prior CBA."

[Htb48JBf]

I think that is a myth. Its not like the players are going to have to pay the owners back if a team is operating at a loss. The owners have earned the right to say, "This is our aggregate figures and they show a steady decline since the prior CBA."

But somehow they stashed $4 Billion?

[SiM7W2zi]

so there will be no salary cap next year?

[spravka.ua]

so there will be no salary cap next year?

There very well could be no season to have free agency in next year.

[Eh085zE7]

There very well could be no season to have free agency in next year.

thanks. that certainly answers my question.

[Alliopeti]

owners plan to announce lockout tonight.

[evalayCap]

To paraphrase Andrew Brandt "The owners are looking long term, the players are looking at right now and there in lies the problems with negotiations."

[Foriaelalse]

thanks. that certainly answers my question.

No genius, there would not be a salary cap since there would be no regular season.

Any agreement- which would allow a season to take place- would prolly have a salary cap of some kind.

See how that works, Clown???

[mirex]

owners plan to announce lockout tonight.

Owners are actualy calling it a 'Walk-out', not a lockout, Clown

[Juersdodfs]

Owners are actualy calling it a 'Walk-out', not a lockout, Clown

i'll take adam schefter's word over yours. if you had a brain you'd be dangerous.

[reaciciomarep]

i'll take adam schefter's word over yours. if you had a brain you'd be dangerous.

Adam Schefter's supposed to report without a bias, Clown.

The Owners are calling it what they want to....Clown.

[Nabeqiv]

No genius, there would not be a salary cap since there would be no regular season.

Any agreement- which would allow a season to take place- would prolly have a salary cap of some kind.

See how that works, Clown???

because i certainly meant if there wasn't a season. your stupidity knows no bounds. i've encountered a lot of dumb people in my life. you're easily the dumbest. i wouldn't be shocked to learn that you spend you 30 minutes each morning deciding which leg to first put into a pair of pants.