[Futfwrca]

Not in those games. I guess I couldn't tell you where the Int came from. He did have two red zone ints yesterday, though.

Yeah he had some yesterday and one was a busted fluke play. I'm not trying to come off as a Sheli fan because I'm not but I'd take him any day of the week right now over Donovan given age and all factors.

[immelawealecy]

My point is this: is McNabb overpaid? Maybe. But quarterbacks get paid big money in this league. If the Redskins wanted to pay McNabb $13 million year but he wanted more, what's it really matter if they give him $78 million instead of $65 million. They traded an early 2nd round draft pick for the guy (so they'd look like complete fools if they didn't re-sign him), he's still a good QB, and they really couldn't afford to let him walk.

Well we can stop going back and forth because this is without a doubt an outlandish contract. I think you might find 3 other people that agree with you and their names are Donovan, Sam and Wilma. Sorry...4....that idiot Snyder too.

[vesiasmepay]

Where do you stand on this? You never seem to offer an opinion just vague remarks.

Because generally I'm accused of being a McNabb hater, but I'll throw out my opinion.

In my opinion, Donovan McNabb is a quarterback on the downside of his career. He is still a good player, and can win in the right situation, but I do not see him aging gracefully, as he has had a pretty significant injury history.

Despite the excuses, McNabb has not had a good year. He is on pace for the most INTs in his career. His completion percentage in under 58%. Yes, the guy does not have talent around him, but then why is he going to be paid like the he's the same guy who was quite successful with Thrash and Pinkston.

Anyway you slice it, McNabb has been a below average to average quarterback this year. He also has issues with his coach. So you take his age, his wear and tear, the fact that he's not playing well, and the fact that the league might be locked out next year, so you have the distinct possibility of hoping a 36 year old McNabb can rebound from this, and I don't think that warrants and extension, moreover the fact he seems vastly overpaid in this issue. In my opinion this was Snyder's knee-jerk reaction to show he wasn't suckered by the Eagles.

[Jambjanatan]

Because generally I'm accused of being a McNabb hater, but I'll throw out my opinion.

In my opinion, Donovan McNabb is a quarterback on the downside of his career. He is still a good player, and can win in the right situation, but I do not see him aging gracefully, as he has had a pretty significant injury history.

Despite the excuses, McNabb has not had a good year. He is on pace for the most INTs in his career. His completion percentage in under 58%. Yes, the guy does not have talent around him, but then why is he going to be paid like the he's the same guy who was quite successful with Thrash and Pinkston.

Anyway you slice it, McNabb has been a below average to average quarterback this year. He also has issues with his coach. So you take his age, his wear and tear, the fact that he's not playing well, and the fact that the league might be locked out next year, so you have the distinct possibility of hoping a 36 year old McNabb can rebound from this, and I don't think that warrants and extension, moreover the fact he seems vastly overpaid in this issue. In my opinion this was Snyder's knee-jerk reaction to show he wasn't suckered by the Eagles.

Boom....I like it. I agree on all points. I wasn't trying to get on you I just really didn't know what your opinion was.

[Solo3uc4]

Boom....I like it. I agree on all points. I wasn't trying to get on you I just really didn't know what your opinion was.

Well people call me a McNabb hater because I wasn't happy with his play here the past couple years, and I really thought the national media made him something he's not.

[Taunteefrurge]

Because generally I'm accused of being a McNabb hater, but I'll throw out my opinion.

In my opinion, Donovan McNabb is a quarterback on the downside of his career. He is still a good player, and can win in the right situation, but I do not see him aging gracefully, as he has had a pretty significant injury history.

Despite the excuses, McNabb has not had a good year. He is on pace for the most INTs in his career. His completion percentage in under 58%. Yes, the guy does not have talent around him, but then why is he going to be paid like the he's the same guy who was quite successful with Thrash and Pinkston.

Anyway you slice it, McNabb has been a below average to average quarterback this year. He also has issues with his coach. So you take his age, his wear and tear, the fact that he's not playing well, and the fact that the league might be locked out next year, so you have the distinct possibility of hoping a 36 year old McNabb can rebound from this, and I don't think that warrants and extension, moreover the fact he seems vastly overpaid in this issue. In my opinion this was Snyder's knee-jerk reaction to show he wasn't suckered by the Eagles.

I don't think you can call it a kneejerk reaction when he's had over a half season to think about the way forward. More, this is a deliberate reaction to show he wasn't suckered by the Eagles

[SawbasyWrab]

I don't think you can call it a kneejerk reaction when he's had over a half season to think about the way forward. More, this is a deliberate reaction to show he wasn't suckered by the Eagles

But the reaction was decidedly in the Redskins favor until the benching of McNabb two weeks ago. The Redskins were 4-3, after being 4-12.

[sigrekatonov]

The McNabb Contract break down, kinda puts it in a different light.. Oh and LOL at the if you win a super bowl every year incentive..


On Monday, Donovan McNabb and Washington reached agreement on a five-year contract. On Tuesday, the deal's details became public, through a source at the NFL Players Association.

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McNabb's five-year extension is worth $70 million and can get to $78.5 million if he is on the active roster for every game in those five seasons. The deal's maximum value is $88.5 million if McNabb leads his team to a Super Bowl victory every year.
But the real question is how much he'll actually earn and whether it will be in Washington.
One of the contract's most significant points is a payment due this offseason, when the Redskins must decide whether or not to pay McNabb a $10 million option bonus. If they do, it would trigger the rest of the contract and make Washington liable for McNabb's $2.5 million base salary in 2011.
So in essence, the Redskins paid McNabb $3.75 million in 2010 for the right to pay him $12.5 million in 2011 and control his rights. If the Redskins cut him after this season or trade him, they are only on the hook for the $3.75 million.
Boiled down, the deal's real guarantee is $3.5 million, though if McNabb suffered a catastrophic injury this season and never played again, he would receive $25 more million.
Here is how the rest of the full deal breaks down, according to an NFLPA source:
• 2010: $3.5 million signing bonus/$250,000 if active eight games
• 2011: $10 million option bonus/$2.5 million salary/$750,000 if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives
• 2012: $12.75 million salary/$750,000 if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives
• 2013: $13 million salary/$1.5 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives
• 2014: $13.75 million salary/$3 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives
• 2015: $13.55 million salary/$2.25 million if active 16 games/$250,000 workout/$2 million possible playoff incentives
Adam Schefter is ESPN's NFL Insider.

[snova]

and it appears the skins can jetteson to avoid the roster bonus?

Def not the 40 mil guarenteed that people were freaking out about.

And once again, the wait and see then overreact method wins.

[bugagasikaga]

Hah, that's such a shitty contract!

He's worth more dead than alive!

[viepedorlella]

lol at this thread. bunch of fucking clowns.

[M_Marked]

I guess Daniel Snyder was not just born yesterday.

Oh yeah, if smart, Donovan will be out of there at the end of the year.

[socialkiiii]

I see nothing wrong with this contract, his shitty season is based solely on the caliber of players surrounding him. It has nothing to do with the fact that he doesnt even have enough energy to finish a game. He's not even close to being past his prime, hell, he hasnt even REACHED his prime yet.

Amirite?

[sesWaipunsaws]

Eli right now is leaps and bounds better than Donovan. Oh and he also has a ring. Palmer's leg got shredded and he hasn't been the same since.

I quoted the wrong post....I'm leaving it though...it's an appropriate misfire for a McNabb thread.

+1000000. best post of this entire thread. well done sir.

[Nupbeaupeteew]

Hah, that's such a shitty contract!

He's worth more dead than alive!

provided he dies before the end of the year...

[Donlupedron]

and it appears the skins can jetteson to avoid the roster bonus?

Def not the 40 mil guarenteed that people were freaking out about.

And once again, the wait and see then overreact method wins.

You mean all the On-Line reports and CSN Alerts were not true??
I'm .