[praboobolbode]

By a unanimous vote, all 32 owners opted out of the NFL's Collective Bargaining Agreement on Tuesday morning.
The original agreement, good through 2012, included an option to shorten the CBA. There is still plenty of time to negotiate, and football will be played with a salary cap in 2008-2009. In 2010, it could get tricky. An uncapped year limiting players' free agents rights is possible. A work stoppage in 2011 could also be on the horizon, though the owners promise that won't happen.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Hea...=NFL&hl=116443

and its on the news ticker on ESPNEWS

[secondmortgagek]

By a unanimous vote, all 32 owners opted out of the NFL's Collective Bargaining Agreement on Tuesday morning.
The original agreement, good through 2012, included an option to shorten the CBA. There is still plenty of time to negotiate, and football will be played with a salary cap in 2008-2009. In 2010, it could get tricky. An uncapped year limiting players' free agents rights is possible. A work stoppage in 2011 could also be on the horizon, though the owners promise that won't happen.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Hea...=NFL&hl=116443

and its on the news ticker on ESPNEWS

2010, Jerrah is going to go balls to the wall.

[accotMask17]

Greedy bastards.

[Vipvlad]

2010, Jerrah is going to go balls to the wall.

It could be interesting. 2010 could be uncapped and then a new cap could be there in 2011. Some teams (i.e. Cowboys and Redskins) could throw a boatload of cash at players and then be in trouble after that?

[jamemeveRhype]

2010, Jerrah is going to go balls to the wall.

Dateline 2011:
The new Philadelphia Freedoms Soccer team displace the Iggles in the hearts of Philly Sports Phans.
Said Jerry Napolitano of 10th and Woof Sts in South Philly - "Who else youse gonna root for, if those overpaid babies go on strike?"

[ketNavatutt]

2010, Jerrah is going to go balls to the wall.

Yeah I thought of him too. Someone will buy a Super Bowl that year. Can we just start getting collections from Eagles fans now???

[CGECngjA]

I'd love if teams sandbagged the year before to save up for the bonanza.

[AmfitNom]

Oh, I thought this was a testimonial or news conference saying the Fords Quit finally.

[EspnaConCam]

hopefully upshaw is thrown out before 2010 because that son of a bitch said hed fight tooth and nail to keep the salary cap from ever coming back. a part of me thinks that dick doesnt give one flying f*ck about the NFL.

[oraltyrap]

hopefully upshaw is thrown out before 2010 because that son of a bitch said hed fight tooth and nail to keep the salary cap from ever coming back. a part of me thinks that dick doesnt give one flying f*ck about the NFL.

Only a part?

[Navzrrqt]

Only a part?

after I wrote it, I thought the same thing. we can remove "a part of me" from that sentence.

[nizcreare]

Also there's no draft for 2010...look for the 2009 draft to be filled with early enteries if no deal is worked out

[pavelChe]

NFL owners are crying poor, that they are losing money. All well and good - maybe that's even true.

Players might agree to giving the owner more - but there's going to be a trade off. I'd bet on guaranteed salaries being put on the table. Those 'guarantees' might not hit any salary cap numbers (allowing all teams to be competitive) if a player has retired/is cut. But if the players are going to keep getting paid, I think that it's a reasonable alternative to allow the owners to keep a slightly larger share.

[shieclulaweew]

2010, Jerrah is going to go balls to the wall.

He can sign some more criminals.

Wait, what year is Ron Mexico eligible for parole?

[sFs4aOok]

Question for the knowledgeable...

Totally lost here (and to lazy to search)

I heard the current agreement says the players get X amount of revenue (I thought 60 % but whatever)

Is that true and if so what is that money for? I assume the current players dont get any of that as they have contracts so does that go to like retired players (pension fund) etc...

[BDDkDvgZ]

Question for the knowledgeable...

Totally lost here (and to lazy to search)

I heard the current agreement says the players get X amount of revenue (I thought 60 % but whatever)

Is that true and if so what is that money for? I assume the current players dont get any of that as they have contracts so does that go to like retired players (pension fund) etc...

There's a breakdown, players get a percentage of Total Football Revenue.

Salaries.
Benefits (including the Retirement Plan) - that's HUGE.
Dues to the NFLPA (usually paid out of Salaries, but still).
I think there's even money going into the drug program.

You can go to the NFLPA.org site and check out the breakdowns if you want to.

Anyway, the Owners are saying that the #s they agreed to in 06 are causing them to lose money, so they are killing the CBA in 2010, and want to work to get a new deal.

[Pharmaciest2007]

NFL owners are crying poor, that they are losing money. All well and good - maybe that's even true.

Players might agree to giving the owner more - but there's going to be a trade off. I'd bet on guaranteed salaries being put on the table. Those 'guarantees' might not hit any salary cap numbers (allowing all teams to be competitive) if a player has retired/is cut. But if the players are going to keep getting paid, I think that it's a reasonable alternative to allow the owners to keep a slightly larger share.

A phenominal compromise. Players give revenue to get assurances. As per usual the devil will be in the details.

How do the owners prevent there from being NBA like issues where players half ass it and hot dog with posses, ride motorcycles 300 mph and such becuse, hell, they are getting paid anyway?

And a host of other questions.

And I agree with what was mentioned above. I think Upshaw needs to be ousted. I like Mawae and like what he has had to say as President lately (like his comments about Matt Ryan's deal today)

[Drugsonl]

Question for the knowledgeable...

Totally lost here (and to lazy to search)

I heard the current agreement says the players get X amount of revenue (I thought 60 % but whatever)

Is that true and if so what is that money for? I assume the current players dont get any of that as they have contracts so does that go to like retired players (pension fund) etc...

It goes for the Players Union Christmas Party.

[gymnAnemoe]

A phenominal compromise. Players give revenue to get assurances. As per usual the devil will be in the details.

How do the owners prevent there from being NBA like issues where players half ass it and hot dog with posses, ride motorcycles 300 mph and such becuse, hell, they are getting paid anyway?

And a host of other questions.

And I agree with what was mentioned above. I think Upshaw needs to be ousted. I like Mawae and like what he has had to say as President lately (like his comments about Matt Ryan's deal today)

#1, the owners will fight like hell for incentives to avoid the sandbagging. Incentives will NOT be guaranteed, though. And once a player is gone, you still pay the base - but that's not a salary cap concern. I think a cap still needs to be in place. Guaranteed salaries (with lower values) will destroy some of the agents, which is (in my opinion) a good thing.

#2, the motorcycle thing - clauses currently can void contracts. I'd allow those, or have clauses to reduce the base (guaranteed) amounts for violations. That would keep the peeps in line.

#3, Mawae or Troy Vincent would be good as Union heads. Upshaw has been in bed with the owners for too long.

[strongjannabiz]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

17th game. That would add revenue, eliminate an unnecessary preseason game, and play havoc with the tiebreakers. You could have a couple of games in neutral venues every year (Mexico City, Canada, Europe) and really expand global interest. Neutral site games could even be domestic ones where there's no real team affiliation (LA comes to mind).