[jinnamys]

that would be the wrong reason.

I think it is because he is white.

[pavilionnotebook]

He's got a hell of a lot better chance of getting his first than your boy has of getting his second. That's for damn sure.

we'll see. "thats for damn sure" duh.

[OGOGOogoloshennya]

I didn't get that memo either. I think Daunte Culpepper's a damn good quarterback, and I'm a Packer fan. However, I don't think he can duplicate the stats he had last year, that may be a career year for him.

It may be. . .but to hear. . .*ahem*. . .some talk about it, he's due to turn into Todd Marinovich/Ryan Leaf/Heath Shuler/(insert your favorite QB "bust" here) sometime between now and August. That line of thinking is fairly ignorant.

Thankfully, most of you who know what you're talking about don't think that way.

[attackDoold]

The idea was brought up in another thread, but this could be arranged as well as tournaments for other positions as something to do to pass the time until football season starts rolling. What do you guys think?

I have no idea what you are referring to.

Celebrity Boxing? I'll bet on Daunte.

[Futfwrca]

Unless some Packers fans vote with their...thier...I would say heads, but I'm not sure that would do the trick, either.

In that case, I agree with you about knowing the winner.

Yeah. . .someone who truly doesn't deserve it. Which would eliminate McNabb, Brady, Culpepper, and Manning. I mean, why vote for the best QB when there's a myth to perpetuate?

[rNr5Di3S]

Yeah. . .someone who truly doesn't deserve it. Which would eliminate McNabb, Brady, Culpepper, and Manning. I mean, why vote for the best QB when there's a myth to perpetuate?

oh yeah, but culpepper does right? LMFAO.

[hacyOrgachbic]

In all fairness, I'm gonna stand up for this one. Has-beens, well that's an opinion thing, I'll leave that up to you, but never-will-be's, you have no proof other than a hunch that these guys won't become good players someday. One of the Packers top 5 safeties all time, Chuck Cecil, was a 4th round draft pick I believe. You have no reason to say that they are "never-will-bes" other than pure speculation. I could call every one of your draft picks "never-will-bes" if I wanted to, but I have nothing to back it up. It goes both ways.

Well, with all due respect. . .if I have the choice to hitch my wagon to a group of prospects OR to a guy that, when healthy, is a proven productive player at the NFL level, I'll go with the proven guy.

It boggles my mind how many Pack fans think that losing Darren Sharper is somehow supposed to make the Pack's defense better. I posted the positional rankings from PFW's pre-season issue a while back. According to their listing, you can count all the safeties in the NFL that are better than Darren Sharper on one hand. Literally. They said he was the 6th best safety in the NFL. Not in the NFC North, not in the NFC, but in the NFL.

Pack fans will say "Well, we saw him play every week last year, and he sucked." I'm going to go out on a limb here, but follow me anyway. . .I'm going to guess that there's at least one person working at PFW that somehow managed to catch all the Pack's games last season, too. Quite possibly even MORE than one. And DESPITE that, they decided that the only safeties in the entire NFL better than Darren Sharper were Ed Reed, Brian Dawkins, Rodney Harrison, Roy Williams, and Donovin Darius. That's it. . .that's the list.

Losing this guy makes the Packers' defense better somehow? You'll have to pardon me if I have trouble seeing that.

While that doesn't bode well for durability concerns, just because they were injured before, doesn't mean they will be this year. On your side of the equation, I've heard that "Michael Bennett will have a huge year this year" but he's no better than either of our guards as far as injuries are concerned. I have no problem with the statement, but again, it goes both ways.

You won't be hearing that from me. I've never been a huge Bennett believer, because he can't stay healthy long enough to be effective. Our best back, IMO, is Moe Williams, and it's not all that close. Moe, unfortunately, can't take the ass-kicking of being a full-time back any more.

Ciatrick Fason will probably be starting no later than mid-season anyway, barring injury. And if Bennett doesn't find a way to come up huge this year, it'll probably be his last season in Minnesota.

[HRS1H7gO]

Can we include 2nd stringers from active boards as well? I'd be interested in the Garcia vs. Harrington contest...

Or the Detmer vs. Harrington competition.

[MarlboroCig]

I vote for Scott Mitchell.

[TodeImmabbedo]

Isn't that putting faith into an unknown player over a proven vet?

And what does the Vikings runningback dpeth chart have to do with a QB Showdown?

I call shenanigans!

I brought up injuries, BF4MVP brought up Michael Bennett. Circular conversation and stuff. I'm sure "someone" will be back soon enough to remind us that Daunte sucks and get us back on QBs again.

But yeah. . .the proven vets get the first shot, and then look at the rookies if the vets can't get the job done.

[fameintatenly]

it would be kinda silly afc would come down to manning or brady nfc to culpepper vs mcnabb and both of those two would lose to either brady or manning

[Blotassefesek]

yeah youre right on all accounts as usual.

And it only took you a day and a half to figure that out. Impressive.