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Old 03-02-2009, 09:01 AM   #1
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I'm after a new camera and need a bit of advice. I've just bought a Fujitsu S2000HD but I got such a good deal on it that I thought I'd resell it and ask advice, I wouldn't want to spend over £250, the S2000HD cost £120 Brand new which is a superb deal but is it any good.

I'm not any kind of photographic person I just want a camera that takes good pictures, is easy to use in auto with minimum of interaction, I'm fed up with pictures coming out to dark or to light or fuzzy and am missing a lot of my daughters shows pictures because they are all coming out crap.

So any advice, no changing lenses or anything to large to put in a bag, the S2000HD has had mixed reviews I see but if the advice is to keep it I will.

http://www.fujifilm.com/products/dig...ons/index.html this is the S2000HD.

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Old 03-02-2009, 12:13 PM   #2
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try it
like it
keep it

if not sell it lol
unless you dont want to sell an open box, remember that review are one thing but personal taste and need are totaly different.
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Old 03-02-2009, 12:52 PM   #3
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I own one of the fuji finepix s2000hd, takes ok pics, and does nice HD video. It does a good job photographing things for ebay inside the house using it's flash.
If what ever you are video taping stays the same distance away from you, the camera gives amazingly high quality video, in .mov files.

It's drawbacks are; It has superrrrr slowwwwww focusing when in video mode. 4-15 seconds for it to focus. and if the object moves, omg its crap trying to get it to stay in focus. And if it's a moving object, ok ya, it would better to take a ton of pics and try and make a moving gif out of them.
As for it's performance in pic mode, it takes nice pics. nothing spectacular at all. When photographing a bunch of trees in the fall, the detail, was hugely bad. AMAZINGLY bad for a well lit colorful scene.
I would suggest not buying one. After owning it a week, i wanted to send it back for a refund.you can find better for the same price. my vote is you avoid this camera.

the problem you mentioned about missing pictures of your daughter's shows, sounds like you do not have enough available light to get a good picture and your camera is unable to adjust to this low light.
For what you describe you may want a point and shoot that has an aperature of f1.4 or f1.8 or f2.0. something made for low light situations. And also has Image stabilization built in.
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Old 03-02-2009, 01:01 PM   #4
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Fuji film 6500fd.
£140 - £220 (various places on the 'net).
6.1Mp.

http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/9015...nepix_s6500fd/

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms6000fd/

Some sample shots I've taken ........









As you can see for £140 (where available) its bloody unbeatable.
Its got a full range of auto and manual controls and is one of the best cameras I've had that takes low light shots.

Occasionally come up on ebay for under £100.

£212
http://www.techstore.co.uk/browse.ph...dLineID=108160


You could try its "bigger brother", the 8000fd, (8mp) from Amazon for £131 new.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fujifilm-Fin...dp_ob_title_ce

check out the reviews first though.
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Old 03-02-2009, 02:42 PM   #5
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Fuji film 6500fd.
£140 - £220 (various places on the 'net).
6.1Mp.

http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/9015...nepix_s6500fd/

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms6000fd/

Some sample shots I've taken ........









As you can see for £140 (where available) its bloody unbeatable.
Its got a full range of auto and manual controls and is one of the best cameras I've had that takes low light shots.

Occasionally come up on ebay for under £100.

£212
http://www.techstore.co.uk/browse.ph...dLineID=108160


You could try its "bigger brother", the 8000fd, (8mp) from Amazon for £131 new.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fujifilm-Fin...dp_ob_title_ce

check out the reviews first though.
nice stuff but, ace mentioned his daughter's stuff, which i assume, is in low light buildings.
you got any pics inside a dimly lit building, of like kids on a stage using that camera??
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Old 03-02-2009, 05:26 PM   #6
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Panasonic Lumix LX3

Basicly it's the best point and shoot out there right now in low light. Handles noise well, has a great lens, and should be pretty easy to use.

You said not over 250 (how the hell do you make that L thingie? lol) and I'm not really sure what the exchange rate is, but if it's really important to you it's probally worth saving up or trying to find a used one.

That or the Canon G9/G10 are pretty much the best point and shoots you can get into before moving into a SLR.
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:43 PM   #7
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You could try its "bigger brother", the 8000fd, (8mp) from Amazon for £131 new.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fujifilm-Fin...dp_ob_title_ce

check out the reviews first though.
I was looking at the 8100FD originally but the HD video sold me on the S2000HD. I see the 8100FD on ebay new for about £180 so this was the one I was going to get but eventually went for the S2000HD.

As I said the S2000HD has had mixed reviews, I've seen some reviews that were raving about it and others that said it was an OK camera in all but the price made it an amazing camera, as I got it for between £40 and £80 less than store price I snapped it up but should have asked opinions first I guess.

I think the camera I have is just not set up correctly, I have it on auto but if its anything less than perfect light conditions the noise and shades are unbelievably bad and the difference between pictures taken from the same position under the same conditions is the other thing I'm not happy with, I did notice that it was set to ISO 1200 (AUTO) I tried changing the settings and set up some conditions where it performed the worst and then went through all, the settings taking a number of shots but nothing seemed to make any difference, if anything after changing the settings it just got worse, the camera is only an £80 job and if I learnt to set it up for the light conditions I guess it might be ok but I just want to point and shoot.

I think I'll see how the S2000HD goes, my daughter has another show coming up so I'll be able to see if it performs any better, usually it's from a darkend room photographing a lit stage, if not I'll sell it and ask before I buy next time.

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Old 03-03-2009, 03:02 AM   #8
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If the S2000HD is anything like my 6500fd, then it should perform much better in low light conditions when set to auto.

The other camera choosing an ISO setting of 1200 for auto is obviously way too high for that cheap a camera, if it was a good quality DSLR then 1200 would be fine, but on a cheaper camera they don't perform as well on a higher ISO setting as they do tend to show up way more sparkles, noise or "snow" (as some people call it).

My 6500fd is pretty good up to about 1600 ISO, anything beyond that and the photos do tend to show up a lot of noise, Its a great camera in low light situations though.

Here's the photo information, lost from the resize, from the first photo in the ones above, its the sunset.
It was taken on Manual, without the use of a tripod, so was taken at a fast speed, but it still came out well.



It was also taken using an ISO of 100, so even though I could probably have taken the shot with a longer exposure time to increase the definition in the foreground object, it was intentional to have it in shadow, as I figured it would look better that way, and imo it does.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:27 AM   #9
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My 6500fd is pretty good up to about 1600 ISO,
I'd like to see a pic at 1600...
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:21 AM   #10
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I'd like to see a pic at 1600...
What does the higher ISO do if the pictures come out crap, in a review of the S2000HD it said it did 6400 but it's limited to 5MP and the quality is very poor.
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:35 AM   #11
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well, best of luck to you. I suggest setting the iso to 1600, turning the settings dial the the stabilization icon, and keeping the flash up at all times during this event. and have some good batteries inside the camera as well.
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:56 AM   #12
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For handhelds/pocket cameras, I don't think you can go much better than the canon range.

My more-than-3-year-old 10MP canon still takes fantastic shots.

You say your budget is 250... can you push to 259.99?

If so... then I would highly recommend this - http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/...LAID=278901972

You won't get any better for the price imo.
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Old 03-03-2009, 11:44 AM   #13
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I'd like to see a pic at 1600...
Suggest a subject and I'll take a shot or two at 1600 iso.
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:41 PM   #14
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Suggest a subject and I'll take a shot or two at 1600 iso.
Anything with good lighting and a gentle gradient would do. I'm sure it's not a very pretty image, but I'm interested to see what it's like.
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Old 03-05-2009, 02:44 AM   #15
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i think its a very nice little and powerful camera. i also use an olympus sp550 which i like quite a lot. at the time i got the sp550 they also had the finepix s1000 (which is almost same with 2000).

i don't think you should expect whole a lot from most bridge cameras iso wise especially the ones that are in the big zoom race. To keep the size of lenses at an acceptable level they seem to limit the cameras (most of them with exceptions like s100fd with 2/3 sensor or sony r1 with aps-c cmos sensor) with a sensor of 1/2.33 or even 1/2.5 (with sp550).

so cheaper bridge cameras have high iso issues no matter what. its a kinda difficult call. fuji seems to have better colors and contrast then olympus sp/550/560 for sure and has a slight mpixel advantage. also with iso's 400 and 800 it seems to do a slightly better job. (i am not mentioning iso 1600/3200 and 5000 on olympus cameras cos they are absolutely unusable).

well there you go, my honest opinion is in terms of image quality fuji is a tiny bit better, on the other hand cameras like olympus sp550 and 560 are so pack with features (and of course a super convenient (not the best quality tho) 18x zoom range) it almost covers any type of shooting situation.


i'd say buy the camera from a known store like bestbuy (futureshop in canada). and if you dont like one return it and get the other.

if i had to pick one over again i'd still go for olympus.
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Old 03-07-2009, 04:51 AM   #16
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For handhelds/pocket cameras, I don't think you can go much better than the canon range.

My more-than-3-year-old 10MP canon still takes fantastic shots.

You say your budget is 250... can you push to 259.99?

If so... then I would highly recommend this - http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/...LAID=278901972

You won't get any better for the price imo.
Hey crowhorse, are you a soothsayer? If I have any question, will you be able to answer it?
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