[Beerinkol]

Omar Khayam:
Look not above, there is no answer there;
Pray not, for no one listens to your prayer;
Near is as near to God as any Far
And Here is just the same deceit as There.

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

Omar Khayam:
Look not above, there is no answer there;
Pray not, for no one listens to your prayer;
Near is as near to God as any Far
And Here is just the same deceit as There.

hi nara sir,
you are using many new words....like FALLACY/DILUTIONAL/FATALISM ETC.....i know u are naturalised american...not born again
american......still i feel like normal indian...like unpad indian....may not understand ur intention of using some unknown words...
any way u r a professor....not everybody equal to u....

[softy54534]

.not born again
american......

I like this one. What does it mean?

[brraverishhh]

I like this one. What does it mean?

hi biswa sir,
there are some american christians are called themselves as BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS....like wise nara sir used to be POORVA
ASHRAMA SV.... now he may be born again american SV....just kidding..lol

[tgs]

Thomas Hobbes
At first, it is peculiar to the nature of man, to be inquisitive into the causes of the events they see, some more, some less; but all men so much, as to be curious in the search of the causes of their own good and evil fortune.

Secondly, upon the sight of any thing that hath a beginning to think also it had a cause, which determined the same to begin, then when it did, rather than sooner or later.

Thirdly, [....] man observeth how one event hath been produced by another; and remembereth in them antecedence and consequence; and when he cannot assure himself of the true causes of things (for the causes of good and evil fortune for the most part are invisible), he supposes causes of them, either such as his own fancy suggesteth; or trusteth the authority of other men, such as he thinks to be his friends, and wiser than himself.

[brraverishhh]

hi biswa sir,
there are some american christians are called themselves as BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS....like wise nara sir used to be POORVA
ASHRAMA SV.... now he may be born again american SV....just kidding..lol

Good to know tbs ji!

I think those who consider themselves Brahmins are automatically born again (dvija)

I guess those who do not want to take that route have to be born again Americans, or Christians, or god forbid born again as Indians!

[Lt_Apple]

Another one from Omar Khayam:

And do you think that unto such as you,
A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew,
God gave the Secret, and denied it to me? -
Well, well, what matters it! believe that too.

[Lillie_Steins]

God denied none and neither He privileged a few,
We the insects of existence created the wounds of desire,
There is actually no secret,only Truth called in various hues,
Alas! We know not and move from pyre to pyre.

[MannoFr]

God denied none and neither He privileged a few,
We the insects of existence created the wounds of desire,
There is actually no secret,only Truth called in various hues,
Alas! We know not and move from pyre to pyre.

Awesome, who is that by? also Omar Khayyam?

[tgs]

Awesome, who is that by? also Omar Khayyam?

Thank you for the compliment.. no its not Omar Khayyam but some doctor trying hard to be a poet.

[TorryJens]

Up, up, where Parwin's hoofs stamp heaven's floor,
My soul went knocking at each starry door,
Till on the stilly top of heaven's stair,
Clear-eyed I looked -- and laughed -- and climbed no more.

-- Omar Khayyam

[Paul Bunyan]

Up, Up where I wrote in Praveen's forum,
My soul still searched for the star of guidance,
Sometimes pleasant ,sometimes no decorum,
In vain I looked outwards..the wrong direction.

[S.T.D.]

One more from dear Omar ---

Men talk of heaven, -- there is no heaven but here;
Men talk of hell, -- there is no hell but here;
Men of hereafters talk, and future lives, --
O love, there is no other life -- but here.

[Paul Bunyan]

Men are in seventh heaven...I wonder how they got there,
Men make life hell...I think they found the stairs,
Men dont fear their actions but there their future lies,
O Men,Love and Serve all..the secret of not coming once more.

[radikal]

Omar Renu

For a few of us - Fun-u!

[Lillie_Steins]

Dear Prof. Sir!

Are you tired of 'God Exists' thread? Hence a new thread with the support of Omar?

Regards............

[Lt_Apple]

Awesome, who is that by? also Omar Khayyam?

Omar can not match Renuka.

Let us not forget that Thomas jefferson:
"As part of the Virginia planter elite and, as a tobacco planter, Jefferson owned hundreds of slaves throughout his lifetime. Like many of his contemporaries, he viewed Africans as being racially inferior. Many modern Jeffersonian historians further believe, based on circumstantial and limited DNA evidence, that Thomas Jefferson was likely the father of all of his slave Sally Hemings' six children."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson

[brraverishhh]

...Are you tired of 'God Exists' thread? Hence a new thread with the support of Omar?

Dear Mrs. RR, yes, I am tired of "God Exists" thread, but that is not the reason for this thread.

Omar Khyyam to me is one of the most fascinating figures of human history. Coming from a very religious and prudish country he wrote about wine and women with so much sensuality it is unbelievable. He also mocked religion and the clergy without any mercy, if he were to live today he would be put to death for blasphemy. He openly advocated seeking pleasure for the sake of pleasure. Here is a beauty:

Old Khayyam say you, is a debauchee;
If only you were half so good as he!
He sins no sin but gentle drunkenness,
Great-hearted mirth, and kind adultery.

And another:
If with wine you are drunk be happy,
If seated with a moon-faced (beautiful), be happy,
Since the end purpose of the universe is nothingness;
Hence picture your nothingness, then while you are, be happy!

However, it is not only Khyyam I would like to write about. As Y would say, wait and watch !

Cheers!

[LottiFurmann]

Guru the washer man, disciple is the cloth
The name of God liken to the soap
Wash the mind on foundation firm
To realize the glow of Truth

kabir

[Ifroham4]

Guru is the Potter, disciple is the (unbaked) pot
Gives Shape and cures the flaws with care
Protecting (always) with palm from inside
While pounding the pot from outside