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Old 02-15-2011, 05:45 AM   #21
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naer'la pesikkirappo ok, aana chat panrappo'vo mail panrappo'vo automatica paadhi english lines vandhurudhu... oru kaaranam, thamizh vaartthaigala englishla type panradhu konjam siramam, rendaavadhu, english'la type panra andha vaartthai vera edho vaarthainu thappa poi sendhudumo'nra bayam...
inga thamizh'la pesanumnu solra evlo per chatting panrapo thamizhla chat panranga?
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Old 02-15-2011, 05:51 AM   #22
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Before Tamils speak in "Tamil" with pride, maybe Tamils should speak in "Tamil" first?
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Old 02-15-2011, 11:47 PM   #23
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Sometimes I feel like The Tamil Right is part of the reason for the whole "Speaking In English is High Class" Misconception...

When there are ppl who come up with names like "Kottai Vadi Neer" for Coffee and "Midhavai Perundhu" for Busses, and "Thagaval Thozhilnuttpam" for Information Technology, Engum Tamiz Edhulum Thamiz, Anti-English sentiment etc etc etc it's not surprising that many in the younger generation get this idea, it's obviously a social misunderstanding to think that Being Proud to be Tamil might put u in the same list as these fellows... (I'm not talking abt the retards who were born and brought up in Chennai by claim to not know Tamil, but well versed in French, who used to watch Rajinikanth Films until they were in 8th, and then suddenly stop because it's not "cool". Ithellam Poraiyodi pona cases, ivangalai thiruthave mudiyadhu) If ppl openly discredit these amateur political ploys by the Tamil right, but at the same time embrace Tamil on a more Realistic and Practical level, it would certainly pave the way for a Generation of Proud Taamil Youngsters...

Sendriduveer ettu thikkum - kalai selvangal yaavum konarndhingu sErpeer!

That doesn't mean we boycott things foreign to Tamil... Adhu thaan areveykaadu thanam nu solradhu... That's abt as equal to the ppl who claim to have never having a chance to speak in tamiz to ppl even though they were born in royapettah...
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Old 02-16-2011, 09:42 PM   #24
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You guys won't believe it, but I picked up Tamil when I was around 12 or 13! No Tamil education in school, so I picked it up from mom. Yen intha aruvam? Cinema. There were lots of backdated movie magazines and we were frustrated because we can't read the Tamil section (two sections, another in Tamil, and earlier ones even had Malay section). I try my best to speak and pronounce well, but sometimes there'd be error. In fact, a then-new colleague remarked that I speak Tamil differently, the style, like (he actually said this) "Major Sundararajan"
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Old 02-16-2011, 11:04 PM   #25
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Stiglitz, words rankle when they are new. But slowly they get absorbed. Does மாவட்டம் sound odd today? No. When it was introduced as a replacement for ஜில்லா it would have. போலீஸ் இலாகா'ன்னு மக்களுக்கு நல்லா தெரிஞ்சதை ஏன் காவல்துறை'ன்னு மாத்தணும், would have been the question then.

Its because of those pioneers who bore the sleights of the opposition that such words have made it into our diction today. And anyway we are not even talking about introduction of new words and something which arguably takes some institutionalization. The huge problem is the replacement of 'existing' Tamil words with English words.And it is not even happening because of an urge to show off. It is just 'naturally' happening. And one has to make a conscious effort to resist it.

A typical housewife on a cookery show: oru cup-la konjam cashew nuts, half cup sugar eduthukunga. tawa-la ghee heat aanappuram, rendaiyum pOttu nalla stir paNNikittE irukkaNum. cashew nalla golden brown color aara varaikkum fry paNNanum.

I am sure even a decade ago this would have been: oru kiNNathula mundhiryum, innoru kinnathula sakkaraiyum eduthukkunga. vanalila nei suttapuram, rendaiyum pOttu kalakkitte irukkaNum. mundhiri ponniramaa aara varaikkum varukkaNum.

No outlandish 'new' words. Just simple everyday words. And that is dying out.
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Old 02-16-2011, 11:15 PM   #26
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A typical housewife on a cookery show: oru cup-la konjam cashew nuts, half cup sugar eduthukunga. tawa-la ghee heat aanappuram, rendaiyum pOttu nalla stir paNNikittE irukkaNum. cashew nalla golden brown color aara varaikkum fry paNNanum.
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Old 02-17-2011, 05:40 AM   #27
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படித்துறை இயக்குனர் சுகா விஜய் டிவி'யில் என்ன அழகா தமிழ் பேசினார் தெரியுமா?

இப்படிப்பட்டவர்கள் நாட்டுக்குத்தேவை!
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Old 02-17-2011, 05:44 AM   #28
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எந்திரன் உருவாக்கினது பற்றிய சன் டிவி நிகழ்ச்சிகளில் வைரமுத்து பேசியதைப்பார்த்த போது என் 4 வயதுப்பொண்ணு கேள்வி : "இவர் என்ன பாஷை பேசறாரு?"
(இத்தனைக்கும் வீட்டில் தமிழ் மட்டும் தான், அவளோடு ஆங்கிலத்தில் பேசுவதே இல்லை )
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Old 02-17-2011, 05:45 AM   #29
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படித்துறை இயக்குனர் சுகா விஜய் டிவி'யில் என்ன அழகா தமிழ் பேசினார் தெரியுமா?

இப்படிப்பட்டவர்கள் நாட்டுக்குத்தேவை!
Yes. Are you reading Suga's write-up in Ananda Vikadan. Simply too good and better than so-called Charu Nivedita's who is also writing in AV
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Old 02-17-2011, 05:50 AM   #30
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சமீபத்தில் என் பழைய பாஸ் போனில்.

அவர் ரிட்டையர் ஆயாச்சு. நானும் அவருக்குக்கீழ் இப்போது வேலை செய்யவில்லை (10 வருஷத்துக்கு மேல ஆச்சு).

அவர் வீட்டில் மனைவியிடம் மட்டும் தமிழ் பேசுவார், மற்ற எல்லோரிடமும் (மிரட்டுவதற்காக) ஆங்கிலம் மட்டும் தான்.

இப்போதும் மனுஷன் தமிழில் பேச மாட்டேங்கறார் (பாஸாம்).

நான் கண்டுக்காமல் 100 % தமிழில் பதிலளித்துத் தள்ளினேன்
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Old 02-17-2011, 07:37 PM   #31
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You guys won't believe it, but I picked up Tamil when I was around 12 or 13! No Tamil education in school, so I picked it up from mom. Same here, didn't know tamil until I was in 5th... At that time i didn't realize importance of knowing my mother tongue. I used to whine and bicker whenever my mom used to teach me tamil, now i'm glad she did.

A typical housewife on a cookery show: oru cup-la konjam cashew nuts, half cup sugar eduthukunga. tawa-la ghee heat aanappuram, rendaiyum pOttu nalla stir paNNikittE irukkaNum. cashew nalla golden brown color aara varaikkum fry paNNanum. Madhavan in some movie: Idhunge ellam "Don't stand in the veyyil, stand under the puliyamaram's Nezhal" nu pesure aalunge. Ozunga englishum varadhu, tamizum varadhu.
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Old 02-26-2011, 01:38 AM   #32
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"What would you call global warming in Tamil?"

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...ow/7566461.cms
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Old 02-26-2011, 05:40 AM   #33
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Dr G Ramachandran, a senior etymological researcher on Tamil and world languages, also agreed that there is more of transliteration happening than translation. "If we consider our language to be inferior to another, we kill the possibility of the development of the language. In other states, a regional language is the second language afte the mother tongue. But due to the anti-Hindi agitation in Tamil Nadu, English became the second language and now it is dominating Tamil too," said Ramachandran. இது வேடிக்கை தான், எந்த ஊரு பத்தி இவரு பேசுறாரு?

எல்லாப்பக்கமுமே ஆங்கிலம் தான் முன்னால் இருக்கு.
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Old 04-23-2012, 07:08 AM   #34
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:40 AM   #35
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Dear Virajendra
Can you email me or write here "additional" information you might help me add regarding the tamil language pattern shown here in this link

http://uni5.co/index.php/en/uni5-edu...ng-methodology
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:35 PM   #36
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Anbumikka Thiru Pradeep thanking you very much for your kind request. I am mostly involved in the study of Tamil - Literature, History, Fine Arts - Music Dance, Ancient Handicrafts of Tamil Nadu, Science - Medical Science, Construction Science, Architecture, Astronomy and Astrology (Kaala Kanitham), Mathematical Science and other Sciences (64 Kalaikal) that existed in ancient Tamil Nadu, Hinduism (mostly on Tamil - Saivaism & Vaishnavism), Temples, Archaeology, Epigraphy, Hindu & Tamil Festivals, Social Practices that existed in Taml Nadu in ancient times, present day Social values etc etc.

Though I have ancient Tamil Illakkana Nookal with me I have still not made deep study in Tamil Linguistics. The reason being the Threads which I hope to open in this Website on the above are too numerous and hardly any time to do my deep study in linguistics, while my age (67 years) is also telling on me. That is why some of my Threads are highlighted as still under construction. Hence I am sure you will very kindly understand my position and regret for not being of much assistance to you "at this moment".

However re AUM I wonder whether my Threads in the following URL are of any assistance to you and I give details of same as follows:

http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...Tamil-Saivaism
http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...aivaism-Part-2
http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...il-Nadu-Part-3
http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...-of-Tamil-Nadu

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Old 05-08-2012, 06:09 AM   #37
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What a fortune to see the links posted by you. It surely helps the pattern based knowledge we give to children. Thanks a lot. Will contact you through personal email. Thanks.
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:48 AM   #38
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:02 PM   #39
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The good thing is, I see more and more of my generation using and speaking Tamil in their every day life-including their children. I can't say they do so with pride, but certainly they are not shy in using their mother tongue. I knew of some closet Tamil speakers from the previous generation. They speak Tamil at home, just not in public!
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:36 AM   #40
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அருமையான விழிப்புணர்ச்சியைனை தூண்டும் ............

வாழ்க தமிழ்.
தமிழனென்று சொல்லடா
தலைநிமிர்ந்து நில்லடா
இமயம் தொட்டுக் குமரி மட்டும்
இசைபரந்த மக்கள் நாம்
இனியுமந்தப் பெருமை கொள்ள
ஏற்ற யாவும் செய்குவொம்

என்பது நாமக்கல் கவிஞர் ராமலிங்கம்பிள்ளை அவர்களின் பாட்டு என்று கேள்வி. வரிகள் சரிதாமா என்று தெரியவில்லை. தமிழன் என்றோர் இனமுண்டு என்பதும் அவர்பாடல் என்றே தெரிகிறது. அவர் பாடல்கள் எல்லாவற்றையும் இன்னும் படிக்க நேரமில்லாமல் இருக்கிறது.

வீரராஜேந்திரர் முழுப்பாடலையும் அளிக்க முடியுமானால் மிகவும் நன்றி.
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