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Old 03-25-2006, 08:00 AM   #21
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There was a poster in the old hub known as P.N.Kumar who was very well read.Hope he comes back now as he'll tell us a lot about Gnanacampandhar
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Old 04-05-2006, 08:00 AM   #22
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Originally Posted by Raghu Dear Balaji anNe and Viggop anNe, I will remove the poll...
Deleted. Dear RR thanks 4 this, i was unable to remove the poll, once created.

Dear Balaji AnNE and Viggop AnNe.

Can some one tell me in which century, Thirugna Sambhanthar was born?, was it in the 17th??

thanks
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Old 04-11-2006, 08:00 AM   #23
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Badri,
I thought it was self-explanatory with the meaning I gave for the few uncommon words. I will try later.
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Old 04-22-2006, 08:00 AM   #24
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HariKrishnan Sir
WHy was GnanaSampandhar called "AludaipPillai"?
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Old 04-28-2006, 08:00 AM   #25
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Sambandhar’s KOLARU PADHIGAM is a very famous one… Its about all the planets . It is a firm belief even now that those who read this sloka will get rid of all their dosham from the negative effect of the planets…
Balaji AnNe, any ideas as to where I can get this keerthanai,pls?
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Old 05-01-2006, 08:00 AM   #26
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Dear Balaji anNe and Viggop anNe, I will remove the poll...
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Old 05-21-2006, 08:00 AM   #27
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Yes Balaji anNe, Me too awaiting eagerly for more info on Thiru Gnana Sambhandar, at what he attained Mukthi?
Raghu,

Lifting the earlier posting of Viggop ( hope he doesnt charge me for copyrights !!)

He was a friend of appar and he participated in many debates against the jain monks and defeated them.Hence , people came back to Hindu religion.He passed away when he was 16 years old during his marriage ceremony. The mandapam caught fire and it is said the entire people attending the marruage got moksham.

within the short span of 16 years he is supposed to have composed a lot of songs.A musical prodigy and a good scholar in debate.many miracles are attributed to him.
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Old 05-24-2006, 08:00 AM   #28
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Dear Balaji anNe and Viggop anNe, I will remove the poll as per your wish and we should discuss the nayanmarghal one by one. pls contribute your valuable knowledge, thanks
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Old 06-12-2006, 08:00 AM   #29
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The place where Sambandhar got married is called … AACHAALPURAM… Its very close to Mayiladuthurai………I understand, even now, every year… one family performs… the marriage day as a small festival…..and also the Upanayanam function…. Religiously…..
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:00 AM   #30
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Originally Posted by Raghu Originally Posted by S.Balaji Kolaru padhigam starts with the following lines :


VEYORU THOLI PANGAN VIDAMUNDA KANDAN… MIGA NALLA VEENAI THADAVEE…..

Sambandhar sang this in praise of Lord Shiva…..
Yes, I recall these verses from my childhood religious classes, , and Balaji anNe, I am not in India, I am in London, any web links would be highly appreciatable, thank u very much Has Project Madurai been forgotten so soon! Please follow these links for Sambandar's Thevaram.

http://www.itamils.org/pmadurai/utf8/mp150.html

http://www.itamils.org/pmadurai/utf8/mp151.html

http://www.itamils.org/pmadurai/utf8/mp162.html

kOLaRu thiru-p-patigam is No.919 in URL No.3 above.
Dear Hari Krishnan sir, I am in my late 20's, I have migrated to UK about 17 years ago,so I have lost touch with vedic scriptures, it is just out of my eagerness to understand I have opened various religious threads to gain knowledge from intellectuals like you sir,

pls pardon my ignorance!

Balaji anNe , i am from Tamizh Eelam
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:00 AM   #31
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Badri,
Some corrections:

Lord Siva resides in Bhramapuram(Seerkaazhi) where bhramma once worshipped Siva and received his blessings. (= yedu udaiya malaaran paNindhu yetha aruL seidha).

kaLvan here is taken to mean unseen ( in hiding).
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Old 06-18-2006, 08:00 AM   #32
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Can you please remove this poll you have started? i feel it is not right.Thanks
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Old 06-24-2006, 08:00 AM   #33
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Dear Mr. Hari Krishnan,

Thank you very much for the links. Actually I am away from Tamilnadu for long.. Raghu is UK now. Hence we lost our links...
We are extremely happy now that we get all the links thanks to technology...

Thanking you once again.


Pl continue with your great work.. We are going through your website ..regularly..
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Old 07-01-2006, 08:00 AM   #34
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Interesting discussion so far on Thrugnanasambhandaperuman!

More than just the life stories, I think we should focus on that extraordinary devotion that the Nayanmars showed to the Supreme! If we have a fraction of that devotion, we would be so blessed, wouldn't we? Can we take up a selection of hymns from the Thevaram of Gnanasambhandar, and discuss the devotional aspects of the same?

Mr Hari Krishnan has already provided us with some links. If along with an appropriate story, he and Viggop, as well as Balaji were to take up these hymns and explain the meanings to us, we would be immensely benefited!
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Old 07-30-2006, 08:00 AM   #35
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This site below gives some idea about Seegazhi and the great temple..


http://www.templenet.com/Tamilnadu/s088.html



Having mentioned about Sambandhar and also Thonipuram … Seergazi… I thought it will be relevant to mention about the temple also… The temple is somewhat peculiar… On top of the temple.. there is a sannadhi for SATTANATHAR….

Worth visiting… the township of Seegazi itself is very very ancient… The temple of Thiruthoniappar / Sattanathar / Bramapureeshwar….. its being called in several names…

But most devotees throng to this temple mainly to have a dharshan of Lord Sattanathar…
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Old 08-05-2006, 08:00 AM   #36
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Sambandhar’s KOLARU PADHIGAM is a very famous one… Its about all the planets . It is a firm belief even now that those who read this sloka will get rid of all their dosham from the negative effect of the planets…
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Old 08-16-2006, 08:00 AM   #37
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THirugnanaSampandhar was born in Sirkhazhi(then known as brahmapuri).
His father had left the baby near a tank and had gone to do pujas.Then, the baby cried for milk.Parvathi devi herself breastfed the baby(gave gnana pal). when father returned, he saw milk on the baby's lips and asked him whi gave the milk.gnanasampandhar pointed to Shiva and parvathi but the father could not see them.Gnana sampandhar sang the song "Tholudaya Seviyan" to describe what he is seeing.It is the first song in Thirumarai.

He was a friend of appar and he participated in many debates against the jain monks and defeated them.Hence , people came back to Hindu religion.He passed away when he was 16 years old during his marriage ceremony. The mandapam caught fire and it is said the entire people attending the marruage got moksham.

within the short span of 16 years he is supposed to have composed a lot of songs.A musical prodigy and a good scholar in debate.many miracles are attributed to him.
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Old 08-20-2006, 08:00 AM   #38
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Badri,
The very frist Tevaram I was taught in elementary school was 'thodudaiya seviyan vidai yeri.......' . This is the first verse in the first thirumurai by sambandhar on the deity in Seerkaazhi, also known as Bhramapuram. I think it is appropriate to start with the first verse.

thodu udaiya seviyan vidai yeri or thoo veN madhi soodi
kaadu udaiya sudalai podi poosi en uLLam kavar kaLvan
yedu udaiya malaraan munai naaL paNindhu yetha aruL seidha
peedu udaiya bhramaapuram meviya pemmaan ivan andre

This is sung to the ragam naattai.

meaning for some of the words:

vidai = bull (nandhi)
sudalai = sudukaadu = crematorium, area for cremation
yedu = petal yedu udaiya malar = lotus
yedu udaiya malaraan = bhramma
munai naaL = munnaaL
peedu= pugazh= fame
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Old 08-23-2006, 08:00 AM   #39
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Dear Balaji AnNe,

Thanks for the info, shall we discuss about 'Kanapar' the hunter, who placed his eye on ShivaLingam?

thanks
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Old 09-21-2006, 08:00 AM   #40
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Seikizhar's sivapuranam mentioned 63.But, it did not mention Manicavasagar name at all.SO, some scholars argue that manicavasagar was born after 10th century etc. while some scholars put his date at 7th century AD.

Gnanasampandhar went to a lot of places and composed padhikams.He even composed songs on Lord Shiva's temple at thiriconamalai(anglicised as Trincomalee) in Sri Lanka standing in Rameshwaram.
So, it means there were Tamils in Sri Lanka atleast by 6th century AD and they had knowledge to build temples of Lord Shiva. So, Tamil people might have moved to Sri Lanka long before 6th century AD.
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