[softy54534]

Friends,

Brahmi was developed fOR Brahmi.

Vedic Texts are clear at very few places that they were put in writing.

Tamil burrowed it through Prakrit a BRanch of Sanskrit. Samana Rishis brought it.

Tamil did not have any writing on its own prior to it.

Why do not Research yourself and reply instead of keep blabering agains and again.

Devapriya.

You said more details shortly and this is what you have come up with.
Please give the promised details....Do not practise escapism.

Tamil did not borrow any writing from anywhere. Tamil did not practise oral tradition like the vedics. Do not try the twist.

Our research is very very clear. Only you are messing up history.

[Drugmachine]

Topic started by Sombu (@ adsl-81-44-25.asm.bellsouth.net) on Tue Aug 6 19:26:56 .


Tamil written scripts seem to be distinct from other south indian languages? How did it evolve?

[S.T.D.]

ch - either k like chemistry or something like chEtai or as aravindhan says like 'h' like Kirche (church) could be ¸¢±÷¦† or ¸¢±÷¦º.

Ah, thanks. I was just about to ask you to pop in and clarify things here.

depends on where are you from and if you speak hochdeutsch (§†¡‹¦¼¡öðî)

Or §†¡·¦¼¡öðî, if the theory about the original pronunciation of · is correct. And that reminds me of a slogan which Baden-Württemberg adopted in a marketing campaign: "Wir können alles. Außer Hochdeutsch."

[LottiFurmann]

Friends,

In his book Caldwell confirmed that Tamil writing system copied the Sanskrit system and added the Tamil Special letters in the end.

Thani Tamil- mismovement SCholar K.P.ARavanan wrote that earlier there was another writing system with za,Za as start, we do not have any proofs.

I suggest you to see the growth of Tamil Epighaphy and Tholkappiyam Ezuthathikaram before confronting them.

Tamil used half the words burrowed from Sanskrit and Prakrit and i HAVE earlier given quotes from Prof. Hart.

As for as My GIVING YOU Proofs for BRAHMI- IS FOR SANSKRIT.
I need to wait till you finish all nonsense attacks overme, and also my research on going is confirmed with more sources. Please wait.

Devapriya.

[Peptobismol]

You have posted this rejected stuff many times over!! Please go for a refresher course and come with something fresh.

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

Here's some fascinating information on the evolution of the vatteluthu, including a chart showing the progress from the Brahmi script to the modern script:

http://www.tamil-heritage.org/tamievol.html

[brraverishhh]

Brahmi Vowls shoe clearly that Brahmi was developed for Sanskrit and show clearly that Brahmi was developed for Tamil.

[softy54534]

Brahmi Vowls shoe clearly that Brahmi was developed for Sanskrit, though stone inscriptions we have it show its earlier usage in Prakrit.

Sanskrit was reduced to writing after being in oral tradition for about 1500 years. This reducing to writing took place about 300 to 400 years ACE. in the face of vehement opposition from the BrahmaNas who all believed in Sruthi (sound, oral ).When they eventually decided to write, they had to borrow other writing system, having no writing system of their own. All these stuff cannot buried in the name of "research", simply by generating false scholarly opinions.

You cannot prove what you are asserting. Enjoy yourself.

[Big A]

Aayudha- Ezhuththu:-- " · "

Yes... About 70 years back in the presently so called Tamilnadu of India we were taught to pronounce the Aaydha- Ezhuththu ..." · "... as "H" only .. and the comprised words as ....

«·Ð:-- A"h"dhu ............. «·¸õ:-- A"h'kam. ............ «·È¢¨½:-- A'h"rinhai

Is it taught different now-a-days?

[Drugmachine]

And this site has a comprehensive listing of Indian Languages and scripts. Happy reading.

http://www.cs.colostate.edu/~malaiya/scripts.html

[Big A]

i have a question i never know the reason for the use of (ahenam) (three dots in the form of a triangle) (the mathematical symbol for therefore)....

You mean "aaytham", yes? It's a very rare character in modern Tamil. The only common word I know of with it is aHRinai «·È¢¨½, the name for one of the two classes of nouns in Tamil grammar. It was much more common in Sangam Tamil though - you often see «·Ð and þ·Ð for "adhu" and "idhu".

If I remember my Tamil grammar correctly, the aaytham was mostly used in "thiridhal" - essentially, in certain consonant combinations, the adjacent consonants would change to become a ·. For example, «¸ø ¾¢¨½ became «·È¢¨½. We don't follow the same rules of sound change anymore - for example, ¸¼ø ¾¢¨Ã becomes ¸¼üÈ¢¨Ã not ¸¼·È¢¨Ã so the letter basically isn't used much, except in technical words which have survived unchanged since sangam Tamil.

My grandfather used to insist that on a proper reading of the Tolkappiyam, the letter should be pronounced almost like the German 'ch', but in Tamilakam, at least, I've mostly heard it being pronounced like a 'k'. I'm not sure how it's pronounced in Yalppana tamil, but I expect it's the same.

[Peptobismol]

The Badener (Baden-Würtemberg) for example say ¸¢±÷¦†

Kirche - ¸¢±÷¦º - church
Kirsche - §¸÷¦„ cherry the fruit here the k has to be like k from keeLvi

are you familiar with German and Germany, Aravindhan?

I would say §†¡·¦¼¡öî as you have written but without ð I would recommend as I am from near Hannover (30 Km) †§É¡(f)¦Å÷ (Expo 2000) where you speak the Hochdeutsch by default. My Place where I am from has its own slang but it is seldom used but some vocals and sounds come through though. But in common you can assume that I speak good Hochdeutsch after 26 years and comming in younger ages to Germany. There had been alot of lot of painful work had to be done to get to this point.

[softy54534]

Germans pronounce ... CHa.... as... SHa...

That means we must pronounce it as "Ashrinhai"... "Ashdhu"... and as ... "Ashkam" Surukkael

OK ?

Silly, why don't you ask BB, the one and only german among tamil foreigners in the hub?

sch - sh (GB)
ch - either k like chemistry or something like chEtai or as aravindhan says like 'h' like Kirche (church) could be ¸¢±÷¦† or ¸¢±÷¦º depends on where are you from and if you speak hochdeutsch (§†¡‹¦¼¡öðî).