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Old 10-16-2005, 08:00 AM   #1
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'' Ulaga manidarin manathinilae marakka onna vedham"- The one sacred / holy book that should not be forgotten by world human beings is Thirukkural.

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Old 10-27-2005, 08:00 AM   #2
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¾¢Õ P.N.Kumar «ýÀ§Ã

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Old 11-18-2005, 08:00 AM   #3
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Topic started by R.Srinivasan (@ ip68-0-198-105.ri.ri.cox.net) on Thu Oct 9 17:55:04 .



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"ÁÄ÷ Á¢¨º ²¸¢É¡ý..." ±ýÈ Åâ¢ý ¦À¡Õû ±ýÉ?

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Old 12-05-2005, 08:00 AM   #4
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¾¢Õ P.N.Kumar «ýÀ§Ã,

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... ±Ûõ §Å§È¡÷ þ¨Æ¢ø Å¢¨¼ÂÇ¢ò¾¢Õ츢§Èý.

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Old 12-14-2005, 08:00 AM   #5
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Old 12-15-2005, 08:00 AM   #6
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People can you speak english? And can you tell me how to start a new yopic or is it not possible?
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Old 12-15-2005, 08:00 AM   #7
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Let us protect Thirukkural unpolluted.

.. and this thread too!
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Old 12-22-2005, 08:00 AM   #8
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Dear Thiru Solomon,

Samples of carbon dated palm leaves can be got from 'Saraswathi mahal libruary' in Thanjavoor. It carried out during 19 th century British rule in India.

Regarding 'thirukkural' -Piravi -I want to add some more things.

'Azhu pirappum Aamappu udaiththu' - clearly specifies 7 birth of man to the earth.

Hence this 'piravi' is not continuous uncounted way. 7 births are defined not only in inthu saiva Akamams but also in Vedhic as well as in other Inthu upanishaths.

This is called as 'karmam / karma' in Inthu belief and followed in tamil nadi astrology written by Akaththiyar from time immemorial.

7 is a holy no. in occultic numerology. There should be 7 continents in world.

There should be 7 oceans in earth.

There should be 7 wonders in world.

Buththar was born on 25th. Adding 5+2=7. Jesus and Mohammed were born on 25th. Sankarar, Maththuvar, Ramanujar Who also were born in this 25th.(Mummoorthikal of Inthu religion)

The flower 'Thaamarai' which has seven leaves in front is the place where Buththar / saraswathi / lakshmi cult is always made as seated.

7 is holy no in Bible. 7 days, 7 influencing planets are used for determining one's astrological calculations.

Three major religions of today which were influenced by ancient belief have their theories in the following way.

1.God is one.

2. Other great men will be born in the earth as 'Thoothuvar' / Avathaar to perish when Atharma prevails.

3.Belief in rebirth.

Mr. 'Chero' a famous England professor proved the rebirth by analysing the history of France kings. 14th Louie was reborn after 700 years and the happenings / important incident matches with the 18th century louie and the 11 the century 14th louie.

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Old 12-27-2005, 08:00 AM   #9
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Old 01-20-2006, 08:00 AM   #10
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TIRUKURAL TALKS ABOUT Pirappu and Kudi, repeatedly , and its the core of Tirukural.

He further says, Desire is the route of births, i.e. Desire forces you to sin, and sins make you to born again.

Valluvar further adds, One should Desire, if at all for - Piravamai, all other things would follow.

EluPirappu, though may denote 7 in the first isght, it must be understood as Elumpothellam Pirappu, Unless you are Sinless and catch the feet of Divinity you cannot attain it.

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Old 01-28-2006, 08:00 AM   #11
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Dear Friends,

I earlier asked What valluvar says about 'Arivu'.

Let us look into that.

Arivu is defined as knowing all about world , subject , science etc. By knowing something itself will make ‘arivu’ ?

Valluvar also says by having arivu you will get anything in life.

A thief seems to be having more ‘Arivu’ than ordinary man.

A smart politician who amass wealth seems to be having more knowledge than ordinary person.

A leading country like America which created arms race in the world seems to be having more Knowledge.

A developing country like India which has lot of priests seems to be having more knowledge.

A diplomatic mission which induces mutual benefits between any two countries eventhough they adapt certain form of treacherous attitude seems to be having more knowledge.

Eventually ‘survival of the fittest’ / More knowledge knowing and suppressing other seems to be more smart / knowledged and fittable to live.

But what valluvar says regarding knowledge is wonderful.

He didn’t quantify the knowledge. He talks not only for human beings but also ordinary other organisms in the world.

Valluvar inadvertently poses that having knowing the thing only is not a knowledge.

But how it is being used in the world is knowledge. Even if you get small knowledge of something in world it must be fruitful to the society and the whole world.

In his ten verses under “Ariudamai” Athikaram 9 talk about Knowledge proportions /perspectives and in one kural He defined ‘what is knowledge ?.

‘Chentra edaththaal selavida THEETHU oriee-
NANTRIN PAL ueppathu ARIVU.

In that he says without ‘THEETHU’ which gives ‘NANTRU’ is knowledge irrespective of its quantity or quality.

Let us follow what valluvar says.

Readers are welcome to bring out explanations for other equeries in this thread.

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Old 02-02-2006, 08:00 AM   #12
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Tiruvalluvar gives us Duties of Family Man as follows:

ThenPulathar Theivam Virunthu Okkal Than- This order gives us a lot of information.

ThenPulathar- refers Irantha Munnor- Then refered as The Direction of Yaman, i.e., Pithrukal- Even today Orthodex Tamils do not goto Temples for Oneyear if any Close Relatives Die, and Every Month First day and on NewMoon Day They give Tharpanams to Pithrukal, Annual Tharpanam on Mahalaya Amavasai and Divasams are practiced by all Tamils. Next To Pithrukal only is God, then Unknown Virunthinar, Then Family, then self is the order a Family man has to spend his Time Money and Effort.

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Old 02-07-2006, 08:00 AM   #14
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Dear friends,

Valluvar says, '' Muyarchi mei varuthak kooli tharum'' - means trying will make you success.

In another kural valluvar says,'' Uzhil peruvali yaavula''- means nothing can be above destiny or fate.

It seems the above kurals are in contradictory in their absolute sense.

When muyarchi is superior in first kural destiny is superior in another kural.

Can anyone explain what valluvar means to say to the masses ?

Kindly think it over.

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Old 02-18-2006, 08:00 AM   #15
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«ýÒº¡ø ¦ÀâÂÅ÷ ¾¢Õ.‚ɢšºý «Å÷¸ÙìÌ,

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What is knowledge ? ' Arivu enbathu Yathu ?'

What Thiruvalluvar says ?

Can anybody quote from KURAL ?

I think noone in the world exactly pointed out this other than Thirukkural.

Dear friends think it over and tell your views.

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