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Old 07-29-2007, 09:42 PM   #21
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Probably this is a bi-lingual movie and Himesh has kept the north indian audiences in mind ??? :smiley:

anyway BharathiRaja was one kind of director who has extracted very good music out of any Music Director........
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Old 07-29-2007, 11:02 PM   #22
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Probably this is a bi-lingual movie and Himesh has kept the north indian audiences in mind ??? :smiley:

anyway BharathiRaja was one kind of director who has extracted very good music out of any Music Director........
he has failed for both sides :P

and 1st failure for Bharithiraja in that?
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:30 AM   #23
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In my opinion, historically, Bharathiraja's got the best only out of Ilayaraja. Despite being a fan of Rahman's music for Bharathiraja, the director's innate nativity came out best with Raja. Its almost as if they were destined for each other.

Bharathiraja went to a lot of other composers in between - Rahman (Kizhakku Cheemayile, Karuthamma, Kangalal kaidhu sei, Dhaajmagaal and the likes, Deva (Thamizhchelvan, Kadal pookkal etc), Hamsalekha (Captain Magal, Kodi parakkudhu).

But, again, in my personal opinion, the only composer who came close to realizing Bharathiraja's penchant for Raaja-like scores was the entirely unknown, Ravi Devendran, who scored for Vedham Pudhidhu. I know of many people who listen to Kannukkul nooru nilava or Putham pudhu olai and refuse to believe its not by Raja!

With Himesh, Bharathiraja reaches the bottom most pit of his search - all over a bruised ego. I'm sure he'll finally realize this now and the only way is up, after this. And that'd be the inevitable.
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Old 07-30-2007, 03:28 AM   #24
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i still rate KKS one of ARR's best album from ARR post 2000..... eventhough the songs wasnt a commercial hit.... wut u think?!! I agree. BR goofed it up in the film, courtesy a weak effort!
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:07 AM   #25
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dinesh2002: I completely agree. Whatever Rahman gave Bharathiraja across those 4 albums...they're fantastic stuff.

Its just that the body of work in the Raja-Bharathiraja combo is so damn incredible that this output slightly pales in comparison. BR-IR combo is a pathbreaker in Tamil cinema.

From another angle, it could be time I've spent with the BR-IR music more than BR-ARR combo. Even non-village subjects of BR (like Tik tik tik, Sigappu Rojaakkal or Nizhalgal) have got some of Raja's best compositions!

On an unrelated note, I'd push the blame for the uninspiring music of Bommalattam on BR, more than HR, since HR has been quite successful with his music in Hindi - regardless of the number of hate-Himesh groups in Orkut Who knows, may be the movie can herald BR back into limelight, away from his recent mediocre streak...!
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:58 PM   #26
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>>dinesh2002: I completely agree. Whatever Rahman gave Bharathiraja across those 4 albums...they're fantastic stuff.

Its just that the body of work in the Raja-Bharathiraja combo is so damn incredible that this output slightly pales in comparison. BR-IR combo is a pathbreaker in Tamil cinema.

probably u got that feel coz IR-BR music sounded more real village music than the digital music that ARR created...

we luv Rahman's score to BR more, because of the pleasant ambience it created for the movie
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:51 PM   #27
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pleasant ambience?... plastic meesik..
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:37 PM   #28
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pleasant ambience?... plastic meesik..
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:13 AM   #29
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pleasant ambience?... plastic meesik..
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:56 AM   #30
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IMO Kangalal Kaithu Sei is one of ARR's best and simply best of ARR-BR combo. I love the songs of KKS.
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:05 AM   #31
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I still remember Vikatan's comment on Karuthamma's music, in their review. It was on the lines of a pomeranian dog lost in the village

Personally, more than KKS, which no doubt is phenomenally underrated, Tajmahal is something I really loved. Very vibrant collection of songs. Just that Manoj spoiled the whole bleddy show!
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:11 AM   #32
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I still remember Vikatan's comment on Karuthamma's music, in their review. It was on the lines of a pomeranian dog lost in the village

Personally, more than KKS, which no doubt is phenomenally underrated, Tajmahal is something I really loved. Very vibrant collection of songs. Just that Manoj spoiled the whole bleddy show!
Vikatan never praised ARR's music b4 i heard....

true man, Manoj spoilt the movie just as much as Riya Sen did... bad lead cast IMO, Radhika and others was excellent.... but lead pairs was ....


Sanjeevi.... Neengala pesiyathu??
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:19 AM   #33
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I like both BR-IR & BR-ARR combo.
Contrary to vikatan's observation on "Karuthamma", I would say it was indeed a village based album and the songs were good.
& not to forget "Kizhakku seemaiyilae" - "Aathangara maramae" was too good to hear at that time :P
It was received well among the village people as well B & C centre people :P
P.S: At that time, I thought KS must be from IR
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Old 07-31-2007, 05:21 AM   #34
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anandha vikatan indeed was very critical of A.R.Rahman during his early days, particularly after Gentleman.... Infact for Karuthamma review they had mentioned, that the weakest link of the film is A.R.Rahman's music

ARR after several years mentioned that this review had hurt him a lot...coz personally he loved his work for Karuthamma... and especially the poraale ponnu thaayi tune...
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:51 AM   #35
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It is a sin to not include "Anthimantharai" songs as one of the best BR soundtrack ever. I rate it as one of the best for ARR too.

Sakiye nee than thunaiye and Oru Naal oru are simply evergreen songs and most underrated, I should say. I have the slightest clue about this movie, but the songs are so moving every time I listen to it.
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:33 PM   #36
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Keep in mind that Bharthiraja's Cinema is bilingual.

I think it's a suspense story so at this point, we can assume the picturization to be situational. Like Mumbai Xpress wise.

Otherwise, not bad from Himesh. I expect better for Dasa though (Not to worry though since Kamal's good with music during movie transitions.)
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:04 PM   #37
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I heard Barathiraja's comments about the movie. He says Himesh is NO 1 in north. Since he wanted to use the Best he used him to the movie. I cant accept the reason.. No1 is ARR all over India if he wanted to use No1. If he doesnt want ARR for some reason, there are so many good music directors in south who would have deliverd much beter songs than Hemash. Whatever u guys say I feel even Harris is the 2nd choise to replace ARR.
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Old 08-02-2007, 06:02 AM   #38
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Bommalatam sucks big time! I stumbled upon something very different and really good:
http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/movie/T0001202.html

Dharan who did Parijatham does have talent!
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:33 PM   #39
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Definitly agree... eventhough a bit disappointed with his second outing (Sivi)... it is far better than what the No1 from North has churned out for Bommalaatam....

I'm affraid that Dasavathaaram's music is gonna be a letdown... coz' BR is quite talented in extracting good music from his MDs and even he has failed with Himesh.... so quite worrying to think about what is in store for us in Dasavathaaram!
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:30 PM   #40
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Heard Dharan's Sivi songs. Its sounds fresh and 100 times better than Bommalatam. Hemash's songs are just noizy. May be northies likes those type songs. Hope Dharan gets more projects in tamil movies.
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