[Big A]

I thought Chithra, Kunnakudi got awards thru' Tamilnadu because I remember reading in one of papers where they had mentioned the state names in brackets against the awardees and I remember reading "Krishnan Nair Santhakumari Chithra (Tamilnadu)". Maybe others can clarify.

Naaz, though I accept your views, I beg to differ at a point that just because the Guru did not receive an award, can we declare that the Sishya is not worth-while for the award? Moreover, I feel people like IR have surpassed the stage where awards make any difference to their 'magnanimity'. But nevertheless, I would still love to see them being felicitated

[Drugmachine]

hi tmrrmt,
what is the problem between "Mummy" and IR?

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

Kupps,
"Not all deserving persons were/are receipients and not all receipients were/are deserving"

The first part of your statement is 100% correct but the second part has element of subjectivity / bias

I feel personally that one cannot receive some recognition like Padmashree without having necessary talent...Hence my approach is "Be happy when someone gets recognized" I support the `half-glass-filled' approach)

app_engine,
if we see in that angle even the first part has some bias in it. One can argue that those who have not got cannot be termed as deserving for one reason or other.

i presume the bias element in the second part of that statement exist in the majority of people spread over the entire geography, hence it became "fact" in my statement as per "democracy's" majority opinion.

but yes i accept and concur with your finding that the second part indeed had shown my bias in that statement.

[PhillipHer]

I am certain that I can't be the only one that wonders (or is bewildered) by the criteria for these awards....
MSV, IR, PS, LRE, VJ, and a host of other stalwarts and legends are sidelined (TMS had the honour a couple of years ago? go figure!!) and KK and Chithra get a Padmashree. Not that I grudge these artistes their moment in the national limelight, and I wish them greater success....but what gives? I mean, is there any sort of rationale behind the conferring of these titles? How can one even think of these things as being based on merit, when far more prolific (and meritorious) artistes have been given the shaft - and - yet again?

I guess my list will begin to inch up only after Sujatha, Chinmayi, Vasundhara Das, Harris Jeyaraj...& Co. have been given the nod

Don't get me wrong - but you must also see the ignominy when IR, a living institution (and the one and only reason for Chithra's rise in southern film music) is glossed over, and his protege makes it to the hallowed hall of national achievement? How unconscionable is that??

[Lt_Apple]

From K S Chitra's interview in this week's vikatan :

"Romba santhoshamaa irukkaen. Intha padmashri viruthu enakkaanathu illai, en guru Raja sir-kku saeravaeNdiyathu. Oru Kuttip poNNaa avaroda recording studio-la ninnu naan muhtal muthalil "Poojaikkeththa poovithu" paadinathu ippavum appadiyae ninaivil irukku. Appothilirunthu ippovaraikkum oru thakappan sthaanaththilirunthu ennai vazhinadaththuvathu avarthaan"

[tgs]

Nazz,eden,AV: Remember the Nobel Laureate Chandrasekar. His student(s) were awarded the Nobel prize long before he was!

[softy54534]

when IR was signed for a movie being made by the TN govt and IR was upset and p**sed off by the way 'Mummy''s security guards treated him at the gates of Prasad Studios - IR refused to work in that movie

Yep, MSV did that movie, I think the title was like "Neenga nallaa irukkaNum" or something ...

NagaS

[softy54534]

Kupps,
"Not all deserving persons were/are receipients and not all receipients were/are deserving"

The first part of your statement is 100% correct but the second part has element of subjectivity / bias

I feel personally that one cannot receive some recognition like Padmashree without having necessary talent...Hence my approach is "Be happy when someone gets recognized" I support the `half-glass-filled' approach)

[Big A]

PS is missed out .. similarly MSV,IR

[LottiFurmann]

National awards(of any kind) have been meaningless and a farce for a long time now. Remember when Bhavatharini got it for "singing"? Lets not fret and fume that our idols missed out again. The award is not worthy of them. Thats how I think about it. They are better off not getting one of them, especially now.

[HedgeYourBets]

Though we are happy to note the current list of awardees, yes, as Rajeshkrv put it, its little disappointing that other 'greats' were left out like PS, TMS, MSV, IR!!

[Paul Bunyan]

Btw, what is the song that is mentioned in Chithra's article :

"Indha ponmaanai paarthu kondae sendru naan saera vendum

Meendum jenmangal maarumbodhu naan un magalaaga vendum"

[TorryJens]

Congratulations to the Awardees !

just one sour note - IR misses out on the Padma Awards yet again!

[Paul Bunyan]

Congrats to All the padma awardees, I am happy to see chitra, R K Lakshman, Manna Dae, Azim Premji, M T Vasudevan Nair, Mammaen Mathew (Malayala Manorama Editor) and many other talented people in this list ...

No Bharath Rathna ? Thats little disappointing

IR misses out on the Padma Awards yet again!

Yep, same way I am surprised tendulkar is yet to get any padma award, whereas his teammates ganguly, dravid and now kumble all has padmashris

NagaS

[softy54534]

Yes, Eden is right. Chithra's success as a singer is not at all restricted to only one MD. She has done quality work with almost every music composer in Southern India, and even more so in Malayalam films, with Ravindran for instance. Having said that, Naaz has a point. It is really odd to see Chithra and Kavita being awarded *before* PS, MSV, IR etc. Well, not surprising in a country where Sardar Patel gets the Bharat Ratna along with Rajiv Gandhi?

[softy54534]

Wow! Thank you so much PalaniKumar for that link. The mpg clearly shows how down to earth the popular singer is!

[Peptobismol]

It has become a cermonial lamenting session for many fans of IR, MSV and TMS that these veterans were/are not recognised by Government, especially during the Padma* awards time. I too was one among these lamentors(?) but now have reconciled to the fact that 'yeah they are deserving for a Padma Bushan and above but they are not getting. Not all deserving persons were/are receipients and not all receipients were/are deserving. So lamenting/bashing serves no purpose'.

However KSC and Kunnakudi are the deserving candidates who have also got the awards. Congrats to both of them.

[Fegasderty]

Heard that the state govts are supposed to recommend the names for Padma*.* awards. Kerala state govt has done for chitra, this year. They might have been convinced based on the recommedation points given by a committee that chitra deserves the award. Nothing wrong in it.

IR,MSV,PS,VJ etc being in TN, they should have been recommended by our own state govt. But they are busy to do something else these days. Forgive me for stating this. Similary, AP or Kerala govt could have done something. Karnataka govt has already decided that they will recommed only sons/daughters of their soil.

This being the case, why to accuse the artists like Chitra. Personally she may also have feeling like our's.

Only state govts have to be blamed for all these casuses.

[Fegasderty]

Kupps, you said it all - in a nutshell. Yes, let's now set aside our laments for a while and appreciate and congratulate the deserving awardees.

Naaz, I got your point in your post. Sorry if my earlier post had mis-interpretted your views.

[TorryJens]

tmrrmt,
thank you for the detail I stand enlightened