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10-12-2005, 08:00 AM
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She's having a bad day |
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10-31-2005, 08:00 AM
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It is the law to wear a seatbelt, it is a crime to break a law, therefore by not wearing a seatbelt she is a criminal. |
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12-08-2005, 08:00 AM
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Thai version of road rage
She's having a bad day
The Nation Published on July 5, 2008 Imagine this situation that reads like any normal day in the life of any Bangkok girl. You're late for work and the Bangkok traffic is not the only thing that you have to worry about. And just when you start to think you're having a bad day, a traffic policeman stops you for forgetting to wear your seatbelt. The officer asks for your ID and driver's licence. But you don't feel like giving it to him. So you ask him to issue a traffic ticket instead. Then you have an unpleasant exchange with the officer. The incident happened to a lady in her 30s who was wearing the uniform of a local bank at the time. The exact date of the incident was March 16. The lady, whose name has not been disclosed, was driving her Honda Civic through Pahurat Intersection when a traffic policeman stopped her because she wasn't wearing a seatbelt. The lady, who was obviously in a bad mood, had an unpleasant exchange with the officer. The exchange was taped and posted on several websites. Now imagine that you find your story highlighted in Khao Sod newspaper as the lead story in yesterday's paper, with a headline saying, "The banker girl scolds the traffic police". Khao Sod thought that your unpleasant exchange with the police deserved more space than other "criminal news", including a bank robbery in Ayutthaya province and news of a boxer who sells drugs. But your fame does not end there. A TV news anchorman picks up the story from Khao Sod and criticises your manners on his morning talk show, replaying the clip so that a nationwide audience can see how "rude" you are. Here's the exchange translated from Khao Sod (based on the video clip). The policeman: "Can I see your ID and driver's licence." The lady: "I don't have them. I didn't bring my purse. I am late for work. Do you get it?" The police: "You shouldn't have this attitude. You violated the traffic rules." The lady: "Why don't you write me a traffic ticket. I will ask my dad to deal with it … What's your name? Come on ... I'm late for work" The police: "You have to give me your driver's licence before you go." The lady still refused. The policeman gave up. Then, the officer used his digital camera to record her (in fact, the incident was being recorded before that point) and let her go. The lady in the news did not resort to any violence nor try to escape the situation. Apart from failing to wear her seatbelt, she might have acted inappropriately by using terms like "goo" and "mung" when addressing the officer and challenging him to issue a traffic ticket. But that's not enough of a justification for the police and certain local media sources to treat her like a criminal. After the original incident, the policeman showed the clip during a police conference as an example to show how the police should learn how to use electronic equipment to deal with traffic incidents. One of the senior police officers was quoted as saying that, "After the conference, I ordered the policeman to find out who this woman was. And we found that she's a bank staff member under probation period. And her father is nobody - he is not an influential person. She's just a Chinese-Thai." But the lady's bad luck does not end there. Since then, the clip has found it way to several Internet sites. A 102.5 FM female DJ who was sympathetic to her plight said yesterday morning that she was amazed to find the clip available on YouTube. After the bank's PR department received this clip about three or four days ago, it checked with the branch where the lady used to work and found out that she had already quit two months ago, meaning she quit after the incident. However, since the clip had become big news, the bank decided to circulate a notice to its branches informing them that this woman no longer worked for the bank. Khao Sod also investigated her family background. The reporter went to her house to find out what kind of person she was. But she had already moved to an unknown location sometime ago. This lady's bad day seems like it will never end. |
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03-03-2006, 08:00 AM
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From the clip it seems the police officer is speaking politely, while the woman shouts practically from the outset, barely looks up from her mobile phone, uses very impolite language and as Sved says the reference to her father seems to be a thinly-veiled form of intimidation. The translation given by the Nation seems very mild and biased towards her, as I would say using 'meung' towards a police officer in this context is basically swearing/cursing at him, definitely more than just "might have acted inappropriately".
It looks to me she brought all the problems on herself, as being so needlessly rude and condescending to a police officer just doing his job is obviously begging for trouble. I wonder what would happen to someone behaving in a similar way to a police officer in the UK or US ? |
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03-31-2006, 08:00 AM
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Well as I don't agree with the Nation's translation, I reckon it should like this:
Police Officer - ขอดูบัตรประชาชนหน่อยครับ Can I see your ID card please ? Woman (shouting) - "ไม่มี... กระเป๋าตังไม่ได้เอามา" I don't have it, I didn't bring my purse Police officer - พูดดีๆ ก็ได้ครับ Please can you speak politely? Woman - "บอกว่ามันสายแล้ว ไปทำงานสายแล้วเข้าใจมั๊ย" I said I'm late, I'm already late for work, don't you get it ?! Police Officer - ...คุณน่ะทำผิดนะครับ You're the one who made the mistake. Woman - "ใบสั่งเขียนมาเลย กูจะให้พ่อกูไปจัดการเอง ....ชื่ออะไร" " Write me up a damn ticket then, my father will take care of this...what's your name ? Police Officer - ใครครับ Who ? Woman - "เร็วๆ มันสายแล้ว เข้างานสายแล้ว" Hurry it up! I'm already late, I'm late for work! Police Officer - ต้องมีใบขับขี่มาครับ คุณถึงจะไปได้ You'll have to show me your license before you can go Woman - "ไม่ได้เอากระเป๋าตังค์มา กูจะเอาที่ไหนให้มึง " I didn't bring my purse, so how the **** can I give it to you ?! And all the while the woman was shouting every line 
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04-01-2006, 08:00 AM
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But that's not enough of a justification for the police and certain local media sources to treat her like a criminal.  David |
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07-08-2006, 08:04 AM
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I don't agree with her behavior, but if one of our senior police officers made a quote similar to the above, he would probably be put on suspension. It also left me wondering what if the woman turned out to have a powerful father, will the senior officer support his junior or leaving him hanging out to dry? |
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07-08-2006, 11:55 AM
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You can watch the Video Clip here too:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbHr-zNDZU8&feature=related"]YouTube - เนเธ*เธเธเนเธฒเธขเธชเธฒเธงเนเธเธเธเน เธเธชเธดเธเธฃ เธเนเธฒเธเธณเธฃเธงเธ เธเธเธซเธเนเธฒเนเธซเธ[/ame] [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS31XlkUOeM&feature=related"]YouTube - เธชเธฒเธงเธเธชเธดเธเธฃเนเธเธข[/ame] |
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07-08-2006, 02:26 PM
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If you watch the video she actually has her seatbelt fastened, but under her arm rather than correctly over her shoulder!!!
David |
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07-08-2006, 05:09 PM
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Ha ha, a U.S. law enforcement personnel would never tolerate any sort of 'attitude' or harsh language directed at them. If you push them too far, or even a little bit with some, they'll put you in cuffs and cart you away! O.K., maybe not that extreme but I am always respectful towards officers that stop me for any traffic violations, last thing I want to do is get them upset in any way.
I remember 11 years ago, I was stopped by a cop in a city intersection for a 'california stop.' When he walked up to the passenger side window, at first he was courteous, but then he asked me what my home address was. For some reason my mind blanked out, and I stammered for a minute. He then threatens me, saying that if I don't give him an address he'd take me to jail. He said it in a threatening manner which scared me even more. |
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07-08-2006, 05:30 PM
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One of the senior police officers was quoted as saying that, "After the conference, I ordered the policeman to find out who this woman was. And we found that she's a bank staff member under probation period. And her father is nobody - he is not an influential person. She's just a Chinese-Thai." I don't agree with her behavior, but if one of our senior police officers made a quote similar to the above, he would probably be put on suspension. Yes, misterA he would be if he was in the US. But the way I see it is that he decides to call her bluff and wants to see who this bratty woman really is. You see this intimidating tactic goes on all the time in Thailand and the poor police offecer is trying to do his job and is confronted with the threat of loosing the job because he is unfortunate enough to run into the wrong woman with a big connection. What is even sadder is that some foreigners have learned this kind of behavior and have used it succesfully and are proud of it.  It also left me wondering what if the woman turned out to have a powerful father, will the senior officer support his junior or leaving him hanging out to dry? 
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07-08-2006, 05:37 PM
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You see this intimidating tactic goes on all the time in Thailand and the poor police offecer is trying to do his job and is confronted with the threat of loosing the job because he is unfortunate enough to run into the wrong woman with a big connection. What is even sadder is that some foreigners have learned this kind of behavior and have used it succesfully and are proud of it. But of cos, I'll never speak to a police officer the way this woman spoke (or shouted). Thats just silly. |
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07-08-2006, 05:56 PM
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Ha ha, a U.S. law enforcement personnel would never tolerate any sort of 'attitude' or harsh language directed at them. If you push them too far, or even a little bit with some, they'll put you in cuffs and cart you away! "I dont have 'em and Im in a hurry. Write med the f [beep] ing ticket and give me ur name, my dad and his laywer gonna have ur badge! And the next part is _____________ 
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07-08-2006, 09:28 PM
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Ha ha, a U.S. law enforcement personnel would never tolerate any sort of 'attitude' or harsh language directed at them. If you push them too far, or even a little bit with some, they'll put you in cuffs and cart you away! O.K., maybe not that extreme but I am always respectful towards officers that stop me for any traffic violations, last thing I want to do is get them upset in any way. |
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07-09-2006, 06:03 AM
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Would the cop be talking to her politely if he was not recording the incident?
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07-09-2006, 08:00 AM
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Without having seen the video as thai is blank for me
The lady: "Why don't you write me a traffic ticket. I will ask my dad to deal with it … What's your name? Come on ... I'm late for work"' Can be seen as trying to intimidate the police officer? "Give me the ticket and ur name officer and start packing cause my dad will have u stationed in the deep south." Not nice if such the case |
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07-10-2006, 08:00 AM
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Well as I don't agree with the Nation's translation, I reckon it should like this: She may or may not not have road rage, per se, which is usually attributable to a certain disorder (called Intermittent Explosive Disorder, or IED). The other possibility is she tried to maneuver her way out of the situation by throwing tantrums and bluffing. Maybe that used to work very well before. I notice she's attractive and perhaps is used to getting her way with things. But, unfortunately, it didn't work this time. |
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07-19-2006, 08:00 AM
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09-04-2006, 08:00 AM
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Interesting story. I have not really analyzed it, but offhand I didn't feel any sympathy for the girl the way she was handled by the police traffic officer. With such display of arrogance, I thought she deserved to be put in her proper place for other bratty guys not to emulate.
However, I also wonder about the seeming blown-out-of- proportion kind of publicizing her misdeameanor. I have yet to mull over that. |
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10-09-2006, 08:00 AM
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