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Old 09-21-2012, 07:54 PM   #21
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Yeah, I saw that same "improvement" here in the States. Unlike my father, who was able to support his entire family on his single income, we now get to have two people working full-time. On top of that, we can buy less. Heck of an improvement that one 5555
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:23 PM   #22
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:51 PM   #23
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I'm semi-retired, not 100% retired, I still operate my empire from home, only it only takes me 2 or 3 hours a week. All I'm saying is to many thai men spend to many hours working, with out any balance in there lives, I see many men who work long hours and never spend time with there families, also many western men never get to know there children well and then there wife leaves them, and they end up working even more hours to pay for a house that they will never use, a wife that they will rarely see and children, that they will only have 4% access to in a week. Men need more of a balance between working life, play and family life. What I see, thai men doing at this point in time is working long hours, with no play, with a very small amount of family time. All work and no play is OK if you are inlove with your job and you don't have a life, but if you look at the staistics in the west, only 30% of men have a professional skilled job or a semi skilled job like a trade, the other 70% of men actualy work in boring drudgeries that are not stimulating at all. Now in thailand where there are a lot more process workers in factories which are even more boring jobs, like making clothes on a sewing machine 14 hours a day 7 days a week, then I think I would preffer to have a bit of a break, and just work 7 hours a day on a machine and let the wife spend the other 7 hours a day at work, giving me if I was a Thai man a little bit of variety and spending more time with my children, even if that is just cooking the meal, then going to the park and playing with the children
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:10 PM   #24
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Seems to me that much of the breakdown in family these days is due to the fact that the younger generation wants everything right now and are not prepared to wait.Banks and lending institutions make this easier by giving out money to just about anyone.But getting back to Thailand I think it's compounded there because Thais have been thrown into the 21st century in the last 50 years or so with no time to adjust to the massive changes that have taken place in the country.See foreigners just about everywhere,all the high rise buildings in BKK,big supermarkets and the younger generation want a peice of the action.Cheers
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:17 PM   #25
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Sure you never been to Montana? No hip waders in the old closet there?
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:18 PM   #26
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Interesting post Khun Don. It reads, with a few minor changes, like many concerns that have been voiced over the years about the fate of the American family. I smiled reading nuclear households are taking over from traditional extended families. Here we lament the dissolving of the traditional nuclear family. Our small towns in rural America have, for years, seen an exodus of youth to the cities and alas we are also a graying nation.

Seems to me that these issues are part more of a social and economic evolution (?) and not something that can be easily addressed by government intervention, if it ever could be.

I'm a little sad to read it in a context pertaining to Thailand.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:47 PM   #27
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What is that supposed to mean?
How can things be different and an old time outlook at Thai familys when there is no structure for it anymore.
Used to be that the whole structure was different with young staying at home, working with the family and raised with some social learnings and responsibility's.
No more, as young people find that it is easier and more profitable to go off to the city and work in the tourist industry and make in a couple of days what they would make in a month by staying at home working in the family farm or business, Prostitution is still illegal, but it is not enforced and damn near every girl from a poor family sees that as her way out and as a way to help the family or just because it is easier to make a little money and because it is an accepted way of life and not really illegal because there is no enforcement of the existing laws, cops taking pay offs instead of enforcing laws then it will continue and only get worse, you can put any laws on the books, but without enforcement they are just wasting their time because with no enforcement there is no laws.
Thailand is becoming known the world over as a whore society where any form of depravity is an accepted life form whether it is bars full of whores or places where child molestation and pedophilia is an accepted way as long a you will pay a little money, it is available, most if not all are known to police, how can they not be when tourists come from afar and know where they are going before they ever leave home and how much it will cost and what they can expect when they get there and the police not know.
How does anyone think that they can expect an old fashioned society when they live in a lawless state where anything goes and still expect most if not all to hold on to a lifestyle that has disappeared in a corrupted society.
People talk about there being shame by the parents because of what their daughters are doing, NO way, they seem to be proud of it and even brag about it, maybe if it were really against the law and those laws enforced then they would be, but not by it being an accepted profession.
Thailand seems to be an accepted destination for sex tourists by the government, Walking street in Pattaya is an area where whores, pimps, sexual deviates, tourists and police mingle freely and no one ever gets in anyone else business, Disgraceful.
I do not really know where such areas are because I do not live that kind of lifestyle, but there seems to be plenty of them and more and more young people are going into that form of living,, Disgraceful is about all I can say.

But put the blame where it belongs, not on the poor or general population, there are those that will live that way if it is accepted, but put it on the grafting police, Govt. officials and anyone who is to busy to help and protect the ones in their charge because they are getting rich because of the deplorable conditions that they allow people to live in.

And the police have to be held accountable, not because they only start at 6000 baht a month, but because the accept that salary but then expect to do nothing to earn even that, if you take the pay, then expect to do the work.
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:48 AM   #28
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Be careful FiP, you're beginning to affect a certain spelling style!
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:55 AM   #29
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WOW, You really know how they live and what is really done here.
I will copy this so that the people here can see how they really live instead of that imaginary thing that they think they are doing all day.
Thanks a lot for your info Paul, I am sure that the Thai will appreciate it..

Bassai, did you know that bestiality is defined in Montana as sexual relations with any animal other than a sheep..
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:11 AM   #30
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Bravo . FIP Your thinking ...and its good; really good.
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:46 AM   #31
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Yeah, go figure. Mom was an English teacher and daughters an English major.

222 posts to get to 555? õõõ
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:17 AM   #32
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Its a pun. The Thai numeral for No5 is "Ha", so if you type a lot of fives together it becomes "Hahahahaha".
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:24 AM   #33
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NO Paul, I have been retired for 16 years, ya see I didn't waist my money either and I no how to hold on to it without acting like a skidrow bum and telling horseshit storys like a bigshot.
I have never new anyone like you befor tho.



Can you read that..55555
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:46 AM   #34
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...I still operate my empire from home... Empiire, eh? Very nice

How's your life philosophy working out for your wife and kids? Have you come to know your kids well?
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:48 AM   #35
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He don't have any, he was but the girl in Thailand gave him the bums rush when she found out that she had to pay for dates with him and he slept with his bodyguards, so she found someone else and he found himself back down in his Vast Empire.
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:56 AM   #36
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I see a lot of improvements over the old Thailand, Not all social changes are bad ones.
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Old 09-22-2012, 03:20 AM   #37
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I doubt it, he has lied about to many things, first he only goes with his own body guards, then he has none but his supposed girl friends family furnished him with body guards then it was a brother or something, no I will not believe anything he says, I have seen winos on skidrow that told the same storys.

But you know, if you will lie about anything then you are a liar..and so many people on the forums are there because they are not for real, we here use this medium for contact with other farang, but then we never see them and talk face to face.
I surely would not be on here if I could have coffee with someone I liked and could find interesting to talk to.
Maybe thats his problem, he can find no one that will talk to him in Sydney.
Can't say that I blame them. 555
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:32 AM   #38
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Does anyone know paul personally? Could be he is a milionaire....Pointing out his perceptions about the use of money.
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Old 09-22-2012, 05:56 AM   #39
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Paline you bring up a thought. Alot of the USA has gone through a similar experience. Home towns where everyone knew everyone. If a child messed up,parents were notified by neighbors, like a check and balance.
It just seems to me ,drugs have had such a significant ripping of the family heart worldwide.
Why do people want to lose themselves in booze and drugs?
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Old 09-22-2012, 06:31 AM   #40
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I was told LOL = laughing out loud
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