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Old 09-21-2012, 12:52 PM   #21
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well well a little try for the the forum.
Little step big sucess for our forum....
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:59 PM   #22
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Quote[/b] ]rontan
obviously you did not read my artical on alter-Net spelling
Could I have a referral please, I missed the "artical" too. Thanks in advance.
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:08 PM   #23
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About history dear Paul_au :

The british immigrants in Australia were Prisoners like first french Canadians in Quebec.

As you can see we could have hope about people to become good people

Let the new immigrants a chance
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:55 PM   #24
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Quote[/b] ]What sort of plane have you got paul_au?
My aircraft is a home built by my self RV-4 with single engine 180 hp with 2 tandom seats with variable pitch metal prop with added wing tanks giving it a range of appox 960 sm it has a maximume sealing of 28,000 feet with oxygen, fuel consumption around 28 imperial miles per gallon.
I don't fly a private jet like Kerry Paker or Dick Smith, althought I have met them persionaly, and about Janet Holmes of court, I herd she flies by public transport or charters a jet. by the way My plain is not parked at Bankstown Airdrom.
Tjau Min I will make a sujestion jelousy is a curse.
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:59 PM   #25
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Quote[/b] ]So immigrants are responsible for the decline of the Australian economy, not global market forces? Where have I heard that before? Are we talking about Jews and Gypsies here? Maybe it is time for a little 'ethnic cleansing' in Australia???
Well ! possible certain people in Australia have bad memory about History.
It begin like harmless sentences and reproach about a category of people because it's a simple explanation and after....
we know all
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:46 PM   #26
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I don't think Paul_au is an idiot.
Only idiots do not change of opinion and i am sure forums discussion and exchanges of point of view can contribute to modify our opinions.
Certain people are influenced by an environment and other peoples.
Certains people speak about things they don't know really. People are often frightened by things they don't know.

Multiracial and cultural society are good because it permit to open our vision of the world, a respect to other cultures and point of view.
And if certain immigrants have certain difficuties of integration, it's a great part because our society system and people integrated in this system don't give them enough chance (education,job,a roof and no indifference)
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:31 PM   #27
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Hello Rotan,
we call them 'Bourgeois' in France.
People who have made money, who think success= only money, but people who can't buy a general knowledge and politeness.
I add that in France, people who have a lot of money do not show it. It's a principle of good manners.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:56 PM   #28
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Quote[/b] ]The Australian Aboriginal is not the first human inhabitant of Australia.
Who said they were the first? I only indicated that they were there before the Brits.

Quote[/b] ]I might add that the pressent day Aboriginal hever made a permant structure of cultivated a farm in that 40 thousand years.
Add all you want. Are you suggesting that only 'farmers' are civilized human beings?

Quote[/b] ]Australia had the best percapiter economy in the world from 1820 up till 1968, now it is ranked number seven, it has gone down hill ever since we had the mass migration of none british people.
So immigrants are responsible for the decline of the Australian economy, not global market forces? Where have I heard that before? Are we talking about Jews and Gypsies here? Maybe it is time for a little 'ethnic cleansing' in Australia???
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:55 PM   #29
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Look at you history Vision
plants and animals inhabited Australia before aboriginals, and there was a unrelated species of human that lived in Australia 60 thousand years ago that became exstinct when the present day aboriginal most likely slauted them when they arrived just 40 thousand years ago. The Australian Aboriginal is not the first human inhabitant of Australia. I might add that the pressent day Aboriginal hever made a permant structure of cultivated a farm in that 40 thousand years. The third wave of immigration is the english migration, some of them convicts, that built Australia, into the wealthiest percapiter economy in the world at the time of Australian federation (Independance) in 1901
About Australian convicts, only a small minority of english migration were convicts, which occured for a short period of time when Australia was first settled.
Australia had the best percapiter economy in the world from 1820 up till 1968, now it is ranked number seven, it has gone down hill ever since we had the mass migration of none british people.
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Old 09-21-2012, 07:51 PM   #30
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rontan
obviously you did not read my artical on alter-Net spelling
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:38 PM   #31
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I come from Australia, wich has the highest per capiter imigration in the world, I live in Sydney which has the highest imigration in Australia, Now I walk down the streets of sydney in an average suberbe and find that my once dominant culture of 99% brittish decent when I was born in the 1960"s has been reduced to about just 10%, Now I have become a minority in my own culture because of pollitical reasion, The younger generation have not seen how good Australia was before Imigration, I hate this new inforced culture, now no one trusts any one, every one looks over there back, to see who is going to rip them off next,
Thailand WARNING Under no sircumstance make the samr mistack Australia made, The majority of imigrants will not be from wealthy pollite people from the west, they will be of a lower social economic groupe trying to rip the good natured Thai's off. This is what happened to my once great city of Sydney, but now I don't recoment even tourists come to Sydney as I consider it the dumping ground of every form of rif rafe in the world.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:58 PM   #32
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i think it's ok too...
Thank you tok!!
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:13 PM   #33
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Australia was first inhabited by Aboriginals, but then a bunch of British convicts were exiled there. I am wondering whether the Aboriginals considered the British convicts to be "riffraff." What group could be considered more riffraff than a bunch of convicts?

If I understand correctly, His Majesty King Bhumibhol Adulyadej was born and educated in the United States. It would seem that citizens of a country that so welcomed His Royal Majesty would be welcome in Thailand. Of course, those who misbehave I would expect to be treated accordingly.

Upon further investigation I have learned that HRM was at school in Switzerland when he ascended the throne after the death of his brother. My comment about him being born in the U.S. is, however, correct.
Quote[/b] ]His Royal Highness Prince Mahidol of Songkla, the Royal Father of His Majesty King Bhumibol Adulyadej of Thailand, was born on January 1, 1892 to Their Majesties King Chulalongkorn (King Rama V) and Queen Savang Vadhana of Thailand. The Prince was an alumnus of Harvard School of Public Health, and Harvard Medical School, as well as member of the Alpha Omega Alpha. His wife: Her Royal Highness Somdej Phra Sri Nakarindra Boromrajajonnani (Princess Mother of His Majesty King Bhumibol Adulyadej ofThailand) was an alumna of Simmons College. (His Majesty King Bhumibol Adulyadej himself was born at Mount Auburn Hospital in the City of Cambridge, Massachusetts.)
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:10 AM   #34
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Quote[/b] ]To become too emotional is not a good thing when making a logical arguement.
This is serious, Visionchaser has caught paul_au's bad-spelling infection!

Arguement = Argument
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:56 AM   #35
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Oops...my bad I will not edit it or pretend that it is just an American expression. I make mistakes and I am not afraid to admit it

Thanks Makiy0
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:27 AM   #36
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My exsperiance living in Japan for 2 years.
(Japan, mono Cultural society in 2001) affluent country, relatively low unemplyment, the freedom of not having to live in a police state, due to a crime rate many times lower than Australia in 2003. people are friendly, people trust each other.
(Australia in the 1948), the same as Japan is now without the tecknology, pollution and conjestion.
(Australia 2003 multicultural) affluent country, reativly low unemployment, living in a police state, no freedom, very hight crime.
What is the only major differnces between Australia and Japan, Australia is multicultural, multicutural societies in every country of the world when compared with other coutries with similar affluent economies have much higher crime and strickter laws so as to imprision it own population to a police state and reducing the freedoms of it's people to roam the steets in safty, because of this situation, I do not have the freedom to walk down any street in Sydney in safty any more.
(Sydney Australia in 2003 and the problems we did not have in the 1960's), Inforstructure has not kept pace with population increase massive traffic conjestion, exstremly bad pollution, water shortages, Land shortage, housing not affordable, people forsed to Live in apartments, as a free standing dweling has become unaffordable. half the number of railway station per capiter, a relativly poorer public transport Having to pay to park your car in the city and other services that were once free, like having a fishing licence to conserve once plentifule fish supplies, reduced exsport income from agriculture as the farm land is need to feed our own population. shop keepers who don't speak english, having to bend over backwoods to respect other cultures superstitious beleifs, I coulld go on all day about all these problems caused by imigration, but I have to stop sume where.
(Now for the benifets to imigration), Increase growth for the asset rich monority, eg for people who have over $2,000,000 better choice in restraunts for the rich.
Summery, it has been proven statisticly, that people who live on incomes in the lowest 68% were better off in the 1950"s in Sydney then now as it took years less to pay of a home on one wage, and every one could still afford a six cylinder or a V8 car, noe this class have been reduced to 4 cylinder cars and living in appartments.
Keep pushing imigration, if your rich and have a multi million dollar nest egg, because the monority rich and politicians have cond the majority poor and middle class into beleiving there better off just because they have more variety of foods choices, but just look what the poor have lost.
Be a Fool if you want, But no Politician has cond me.
IF Thailand wants to go this way there is no going back, but forget you buhdist culture, that will be destroyed like christianity is in sydney, ever notice they won't play christmas music in shopping centers in some parts of sydney now so as not to offend the moslem's
MY CULTURE WAS DESTROYED IN SYDNEY, DON'T DO THE SAMR IN THAILAND.
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:06 AM   #37
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Quote[/b] ]Would he marry her? If so, where would they live?
If I got serious with a Thai woman, I would be unlikley I would want to marry her simpley because, after many years of going out with woman I have found now I can't trust them as generaly I have found them to be gold diggers, I may consider having a leagle Cohabitation and life style agreement drawn up and live in a defacto relationship, but I enjoy my freedom now after being single so long and would prefer she live in her house and I live in mine. About living in Thailand or Australia, The benifit of living in Thailand would be I could afford to employ a full time gardner, a house maid and live in even more luxury and have more spending money. The down side to Thailand is it is very hot all year round, and I think Sydneys sunny mild climate can not be beaten, I just don't think I could live in heat all the time, Also about living in Australia I have my own small aircraft that I fly as a hobby, I have long range tanks fitted so I can fly directly onto my friends farm, a beach on fraiser island near the greart barrier reef, or directly into the heritage listed wildernest area of south east Tasmainia with out refueling, I enjoy the Australian wilderness, and specialy the pristein environment of Tasmainia.
So I would still live in Australia, but Bangkok is just a 9 hour direct flight away from sydney and it would be nothing for me to go there for the weekend if I wanted to.
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:21 AM   #38
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I think he is a little Masochist but it's just an opinion
I think he like we give him the stick to beat him (just an image).

visionchaser45, i like your sentence signature: 'life is learning. If you stop learning you might as well be dead"

We had a writer who said: A man without community of the other men is a monster...
We have to learn with the others
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Old 09-22-2012, 03:21 AM   #39
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Hmmm... back to the original topic:

Certainly, it would be nice if Thailand could afford to be the same indiscriminatory "melting pot" nation that the US fancies itself to be - but it simply doesn't have the resources to sustain a large number of foreign people who are not beneficial to the country but are only there to consume its resources.

I think the Thai government's purpose with the stricter immigration laws is to weed out the freeloaders... so at the end, if only foreigners with skills, talents or money that benefit Thailand are admitted to live there... that's just the way it is. It's not a unique phenomenon anyway; it has a predecessor in a US-policy that is called the "brain-drain".

Also... I think one of the American presidents said something like "Don't ask what the country can do for you, but what you can do for the country" or something like that. I don't remember it verbatim.

Whether the Thai government is right or wrong about the stricter immigration laws is up for interpretation...
Quote[/b] ]I am sure they are doing the best they can and everyone will not agree that what they are doing is best. That is just the way things are. IMHO
I agree.
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:05 AM   #40
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paul_au has written about having a Thai girlfriend and it got me wondering. If things ever became serious between them, what would he do? Would he marry her? If so, where would they live? I am just curious because this question has been nagging at me for a few days.
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