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Old 11-08-2005, 08:00 AM   #1
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I do know someone who had one of these nasty injuries. Even working with bamboo and getting it under the skin is nasty. It goes septic in no time at all.

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Old 12-05-2005, 08:00 AM   #2
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Confound, do you have to slag off people in every post?. It's getting a little tiresome.

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Old 12-09-2005, 08:00 AM   #3
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Originally posted by Kuri


You're a wicked boy. You couldn't be more blunt even if you threw a brick....

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Old 12-12-2005, 08:00 AM   #4
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Actually, I've heard of that sensei from mexico as well, although I heard he didn't die, but he is blind in one eye. Several months back we had a shinpan seminar at my dojo, and my sensei pointed out to me a guy from mexico and mentioned that awhile back someone struck his men with a splintered shinai and it shattered sending bamboo splinters into one of his eyes.

If you're still wondering how dangerous a shattering shinai is, try snapping a shinai stave in half and then talking a look it-it breaks into little needle like splinters like spines on a porcupine- scary stuff-
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Old 12-16-2005, 08:00 AM   #5
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Originally posted by KENSHIN
from reading your last post, and without sounding to blunt... You're a wicked boy. You couldn't be more blunt even if you threw a brick....

It's quite sad that the threat of blindness is quite high. I've also been misdiagnosed by small clinic doctors. Now I just skip them and go directly to big city hospitals. Confound, you need to find people that will give you good advice and look out for you, for your own sake.
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:00 AM   #6
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from reading your last post, and without sounding to blunt...if the illness is that severe that it may cause blindness if incorrectly treated, and i am pretty sure that it is treatable...anyhoo, if you are unsatisfied by the treatment that you are recieving from the japenese doctors, than why don't you go back home where you would feel more comfortable? i mean ok i am not there so i can't really make any kind of judgments about your circumstances but i feel that if your problem is in some way with japenese men or doctors maybe it is not the country for you? what do ya think correct me if i am wrong...because as explained before by james or david (can't remember which one) that when you wrote your post from the outset it gave the impression that you was pointing the finger at all japenese doctors, but i am sure that that is not the case in which i also would like to believe that you think that too, and it was simply a matter of miswording...anyhoo i guess the point is don't be too angry with with all japanese doctors, as the one dealing wih you may just be a complete fool...but i guess the only real recomendation is to go abroad if it is not treatable there...slap me if i am wrong....hehehehe.
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Old 12-20-2005, 08:00 AM   #7
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I've had a friend get a small splinter in his eye from his opponenet's shinai. His eye swelled up very quickly, but the doctor couldn't find anything at all until his second visit the same day, when he got a high powered lens out and found a very small sliver of bamboo.

Luckily his vision was not impaired, but it very well could have been.

Alex, do you check beginnners' shinai before or while you train with them? They'll learn pretty quickly when you refuse to train with them until they sort their shinai out.

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Old 01-07-2006, 08:00 AM   #8
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Originally posted by Confound
I am allergic to Japan.

However, there are some good things about living here, like the pay.

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Old 01-17-2006, 08:00 AM   #9
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Hey, at least you *got* a diagnosis...something that's often hard to get here.
(Oh,the joys of the NHS)

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Old 01-19-2006, 08:00 AM   #10
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Hamish

From time to time I walk among them telling them to take off the shipping cords of the shinai, to check for splintering, etc, but the fact is that most of the time there's no opportunity for these procedures. Many of my shodan colleagues also know that their shinai is letting go of splints but do nothing about it, so it's not strange that beginners do the same.

Shinai is quite expensive in Brazil since they have to be imported with 60% taxes, so they only stop using the one they own when it breaks. That's why I'm planning to buy a new men or a plastic shield, but both look horrible
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Old 02-12-2006, 08:00 AM   #11
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Originally posted by Confound
Blunt is good.

Kenshin I've been home once already. the doctors managed to clear up the infection, getting rid of almost all the imflammation. they sent me bakc to japan with medications. i took the meds as prescribed, but as soon as i returned to japan, the disease got worse all over again. it's very mysterious.

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this might be funny to say and really stupid off me, but i can't resist...your problem may be that you are just simply allergic to japan...

other than that i just find it really mystifying to hear this...but if it really is that bad why don't you just move from there, i mean of course it all really depends on what you do there, as what you maybe doing is your livelyhood too...but i guess if you personally feel and have accepted the fact that it has something to do with being in japan...then it is just a question of what you consider to be more important, i.e your job or your sight...i only say this because you made a statement that when you got it treated abroad or back home it was getting slightly better and as soon as you got back to japan it just got worse again...i don't know what to say, afterall its your life you do what you want...but i really hope that this situation with your sight is resolved...i really do hope so...i can imagine that to lose your sight would be the worst thing that could happen to someone...anyhoo, i hope you do get better.
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Old 02-21-2006, 08:00 AM   #12
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I heard that a sensei from mexico was killed when someone with an improperly maintanenced shinai hit him and it split through the men-gane. I think it was because the little metal piece at the hilt of the shinai wasn't there and so it slid out and went right through his eye....
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Old 04-09-2006, 08:00 AM   #13
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Cklin,

Yea, the only e-kendo store i've seen so far carrying hasegawa's mujun men is http://www.tokyoman.com/english/gray/main.htm

They say Naoki Eiga uses their equipment, whcih I pretty much doubt since Eguchi says the same thing.

Anyway, Hasegawa Co. 's website has the prices for mujun men, but since I can't understand it I sent email to them for a quote, but apparently they: a) don't check email b) don't understand english c) don't sell to the end-user.

So, if someone is in Japan and can fetch me a price, I'd be glad.

Recently, this guy (who's my senior) was fighting with two large prongs out of his shinai, I wonder if he didn't see that he was wielding a bamboo spiked XII-century mace.
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Old 04-18-2006, 08:00 AM   #14
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Originally posted by Confound


Back to the original post... I can't corroborate a story of splinters, but i can recommend that you spend time CLEANING THE FLOOR, and the inside of your men. My budokan is very dirty. I clean the floor, but it doesn't help, people walk outside with bare feet, then come inside, without wiping them. It's really nasty.

Shortly after starting kendou, I contracted a mysterious eye illness, which was of course, improperly treated by japanese doctors, and it instead developed complications and turned into uveitis. I've had it for 10 months now, and it does get noticeably worse when the budokan floor is extremely dirty. the dirt is stirred up and gets inside my men, making my eyes worse.

if i can pass one useful piece of information on to everyone else, it would be: clean the floor. i'll never see properly again in my life, because of a bloody dirty floor and poor medical care too.


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I think this post is quite interesting, however can you answer me one question has anybody else in your dojo contracted this strange illness? if not i feel that it may be an alergy...what do ya think...because it seems a bit strange that if you are the only person to have contracted this illness...in any case...the best thing to suggest to help with this illness as you have said that it keeps getting worse because of the dirty floor...well then i suggest that you speak to your senior to try and clean up the dojo...if that does not work...i guess the only way is you clean the floor yourself by arriving early to the dojo...which in effect will set an example to the other kendokas...if that does not seem to be your cup of tea then i suggest look for another dojo....hehehehe but i am sure it would not get to that kind of situation.
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:00 AM   #15
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I' worry about it from time to time, when serving as motodachi for beginners. Often they don't know how to care about their shinai, and frequently fragments would fly in my face after those Scorpion King-esque men blows.

I've been thinking about getting a mujun men or a shield, but so far I've decided to take the risks.

Since we're talking bout it, Hyaku, can you get me a quote on a Mujun Men?

Cheers,

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Old 05-09-2006, 08:00 AM   #16
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Cklin: I figured as much, since that site kept on asking me to install the Korean language pack...

I guess that answers my question about whether they are another online retailer of Korean budo equipment...
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Old 05-10-2006, 08:00 AM   #17
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Their address is a bit of a giveaway, too ;-)

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Old 05-15-2006, 08:00 AM   #18
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http://www.tokyoman.com/

Oh my...another sketchy online kendo retailer... Their prices are definitely close to Japanese budo equipment prices, but I can't tell if, like most of the other online stores, outsource from Korea. Their tournament flags, for instance, come in blue and white - I've never seen those colors used before. Strange.

alexpollijr - if you're looking for genuinely good kendo equipment online - check out http://www.moribudo.co.jp

Request a catalog online, and mail order. Their prices aren't very competitive (well, compared to, say, kendoshop.com) but they make amazing stuff. I am not sure whether they carry the plexi glass men from Hasegawa.
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Old 06-05-2006, 08:00 AM   #19
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Olaf: White and blue flags are used in kumdo...
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Old 06-16-2006, 08:00 AM   #20
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