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Old 10-12-2005, 08:00 AM   #1
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Sorry I don't get what the first paragraph refers to. Who is "her"?

I think RAB is one person, the letter is in singular but this just occurred to me, It can't be one person because two are needed to get the locket... but only one fits in the boat. So confusing.

How about Snape? Villiain or hero?
I think the latter. And you?
her = rowling. she gave away her story twist in that i beleive.

Hmmmm.....snape is a hard question. IF the story procedes down the two paths i think it could(one or the other), then no, he is not. I beleive WHATEVER happend, it was on dumbledore's order's, theres always a chance he's a villian though


heres an old dumbledore quote to think about "to the well organized mind, death is but the next great adventure..."
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Old 10-17-2005, 08:00 AM   #2
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Another descrepancy, When snape performs "avada Kedavra", it describes the effects wrong. Every other time it has described the peoples deaths as instant in a flash of green light, not having lifted them of the ground and thrown them down. Why was dumbledores different?

Im also realy starting to beleive it was regulus. THat whole passage is just starting to click(the note)


BTW, I'm sorry if someone read this and got the book spoiled, but dont blame me or anyone else in this thread. I warned people in the title.....
As far as the Avada Kedavra, one death eater said in book 5 that you need to really mean the curse for it to happen (Lestrange?), obviously Snape didn't really mean it (I think Dumbledore begged him to kill him, not to have mercy) and Harry doesn't recover from his curse immediatly (as Dumbledore did not die from the curse) but until a few moments passed (Dumbledore hits the ground.
As for Regulus, that makes more sense now that I think about it. There was a Heavy gold locket that no one could open in the Black house i think and the fake horcrux is described as being smaller than the real one.
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Old 10-17-2005, 08:00 AM   #3
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i found this somewhere buts its really funny

http://sorryamy.ytmnd.com/
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Old 10-22-2005, 08:00 AM   #4
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Mr D. is dead.
Next book Harry may be early 20's, he needs to gains experience and POWER , while his friends fight some years agains D. Eaters hangry of power and REVENGE
No, Rowling said that in book seven Harry will be 17, but it'll probably not be in Hogwarts.
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Old 10-23-2005, 08:00 AM   #5
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Quote: ....my theory is that Dumbledore used Fawkes as a Horcrux to actually gain immortality since Fawkes will just be reborn every time he dies and Dumbledore would be the kind of person to realize that.



I don't think that Dumbledore would make a Horcrux. It's dark magic which involves a murder. And he always said that Voldemort's fear of death is his greatest weakness. Don't forget his opinion (paraphrased): "To the well organized mind, death is only the next adventure."

I think, he dead, but there will be a possibility to communicate.
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:00 AM   #6
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My ingenious theory-

Snape is a dirty filthy traitor who should die a most painful death (this was my theory even before he killed Dumbly). As for Dumbly, he is going to stay dead. Before his death, Harry just sat around waiting for Voldy to attack. He is now setting off to kill Voldy on his own. There is only one book left. If Harry is to kill Voldy, then there isn't much room for Dumbly to return, is there? Unless he pulls an Obi-Wan thing...
I think the Obi-wan thing is the most likely suspect. Im not sure about snape though. remeber this is still a kids book(even though this one was a good bit darker and harsher) at heart, and i cant see her going quite that radical with it
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Old 11-22-2005, 08:00 AM   #7
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im thinking no horcrux but something less........evil
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Old 11-24-2005, 08:00 AM   #8
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Snape is a master actor, he knows how to fake his emotions.
He's an accomplised Occlumency-thingy. Helps to fake emotions eh?
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:00 AM   #9
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Duhhhh. R.A.B. Siriuses brother. Regulus Black. There is no doubt about it.

The A. part is his middle name.
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Old 12-05-2005, 08:00 AM   #10
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her = rowling. she gave away her story twist in that i beleive.

Hmmmm.....snape is a hard question. IF the story procedes down the two paths i think it could(one or the other), then no, he is not. I beleive WHATEVER happend, it was on dumbledore's order's, theres always a chance he's a villian though


heres an old dumbledore quote to think about "to the well organized mind, death is but the next great adventure..."
I think Sanpe is not a villain, he stops the death eater putting the cruciatus curse on Harry and does not do anything to him even though he can. He even tells Harry a very important advise when Harry is chasing him: "Blocked again and again until you learn to keep your mouth shut and your mind closed Potter!" which obviously means "If you want to stand a chance practice non verbal spells and occlumency
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Old 12-24-2005, 08:00 AM   #11
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I still dont think its what we thought. Pushing the silent spells is what gave her away i beleive..........and i have this feeling dumbledore may **have**been capable of casting spells with no wand(i think the ring may have something to do with it)

mom brought up another interesting idea on RAB.....what if the A is and

so R And B?
This is like banging your head into a wall
Sorry I don't get what the first paragraph refers to. Who is "her"?

I think RAB is one person, the letter is in singular but this just occurred to me, It can't be one person because two are needed to get the locket... but only one fits in the boat. So confusing.

How about Snape? Villiain or hero?
I think the latter. And you?
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Old 01-26-2006, 08:00 AM   #12
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I wish there was a spoiler warning for those that haven't read the books yet...

Edit: I just read the title of the thread, but since it's so long, some people may not see it all until it's too late.
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Old 01-26-2006, 08:00 AM   #13
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ewww...Harry Potter. Can't believe a bunch of grown men reading this kind
of monbojumbo.
well why should you have a problem with it isaac? Youve told me before your still sixteen and a little kid. Do you have any idea how many of the "classics" are even more flamboyent and ridiculous than anything in these books(wait, all youve ever read are disney books and the communist manifesto...). Its not my fault rowling is capable of writing some of(IMO) most enjoyable literature of the the last five years, and still keep it on a level a kid can enjoy. AS far as im concerned, she is one of the best authors i have been privy to read's material in a long time. I hope that she is nominated at some point for the noble prize in literature, simply because she has encouraged half the world to read again(there is evidence that people who had not read in years have picked these up to read.......Even looking at my mothers third grade kids, it has encouraged them to improve there own reading abilities so they can read them). Maybe when you grow up(and understand, im going by what you yourself have told me about your maturity level)you'll understand why adults enjoy fine literature



Dont start a fight here,you might get away being a prick in the flames section, but i will start complaining to the mods if you come in and ruin a thread in this forum.
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Old 03-21-2006, 08:00 AM   #14
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just the most logic thing I can think of, tho it only explains Dumbledore's reasons, anything about book 7 except that there will probably be at least 4 horcruxes destroyed, would be randomly poking in the dark.
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Old 03-25-2006, 08:00 AM   #15
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Default Is he who died realy dead?(if you read harry potter, dont read thistill you read HBP)
WEll is dumbledore realy dead?

i personaly feel he is not, since it talks so much about fauxes(sp?) and infers it sees a pheonix fly out of the fire. i just have a sneaking suspision there is something wierd going on, maybe dumbledore had a horcrux(again sp?)

Im sitll not shure on snape. He is either A. realy a little bastard B. he did what he did(wether dumledore is dead or not) on orders, or C. the unbreakable vow forced him to do it.

I have a feeling dumbledore is dead, and snape is a prat LOL but im thinking the way shes weaving this little tale, theres more to it than that
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Old 04-22-2006, 08:00 AM   #16
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I think Dumbledore is at least physically dead now. I don't believe he had a horcrux but if he did perhaps Fawkes is his horcrux. He says that it is not a very good idea to make an animal a horcrux but phoenixes are immortal, at the very least there is a stronger connection between them than master and pet.

Oh yeah and now we have 3+ years of speculating "WHO IS R.A.N.?" unless I am a prat and missed something very obvious in a previous book.
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:00 AM   #17
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Dumbledore's picture in the headmaster's office?It sometimes amuses me that Phileas seems to have a mind of his own even thought it's just a picture of him. wut do u think?
Dumbledore's dead. I re-read the part where he died (I got bored~its the hols). Definitely there's a green flash of light.
BUT they can do that without doin avadra kedavra
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Old 05-14-2006, 08:00 AM   #18
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My ingenious theory-

Snape is a dirty filthy traitor who should die a most painful death (this was my theory even before he killed Dumbly). As for Dumbly, he is going to stay dead. Before his death, Harry just sat around waiting for Voldy to attack. He is now setting off to kill Voldy on his own. There is only one book left. If Harry is to kill Voldy, then there isn't much room for Dumbly to return, is there? Unless he pulls an Obi-Wan thing...
I think Snape is still on the good side.
there are 4, possibly 5 horcruxes left before Voldemort can be killed, and an immortal warlock in the body of a phoenix who also possibly knows the whereabouts of the horcruxes might help a bit on that quest
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Old 05-18-2006, 08:00 AM   #19
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Another descrepancy, When snape performs "avada Kedavra", it describes the effects wrong. Every other time it has described the peoples deaths as instant in a flash of green light, not having lifted them of the ground and thrown them down. Why was dumbledores different?

Im also realy starting to beleive it was regulus. THat whole passage is just starting to click(the note)


BTW, I'm sorry if someone read this and got the book spoiled, but dont blame me or anyone else in this thread. I warned people in the title.....
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Old 05-30-2006, 08:00 AM   #20
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Dumbledore may have been pleading Snape to "finish the job" and kill him in order to become more powerful á la Obi Wan. Especially when you consider that all of Dumby's death sequence was done for Harry's bemefit. Also Snape doesn't attack Harry until he is called a coward, even when it becomes very clear that he could easily kill Harry.
By the way: I seriously didn't see Snape as the Prince coming, I knew it wouldn't be someone as obvious as Riddle but.....
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