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Old 03-20-2006, 02:03 PM   #1
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Default 'the Games' kendo...channel 4
oh dear....after watching that we are bound to get a load of people coming down the club. "I was watching the Games on tv last night..."

NOOOOOO!!!! GET OUT NOW.

I wanted to tsuki the commentator at least twice. preferably while he had no bogu on. while using a shinken.
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Old 03-20-2006, 03:28 PM   #2
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I watched it although I wasn't expecting much. I figured it might be entertaining seeing some 'celebs' attempting kendo after a very small amount of training. I thought they did ok all things considered, especially the one in green.
It was annoying when they were talking about various things and getting them horribly wrong so often and the attitude of some of the presenters made me want to smack them :P Especially on the training bit this afternoon when the star wars/lightsaber comments started.
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Old 03-20-2006, 03:51 PM   #3
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The 'competitors' did reasonably well given the conditions and restrictions, but I don't think that it was a very good advertisement for kendo.

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Old 03-20-2006, 04:43 PM   #4
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Train for three months... into bogu... compete on UK television and in front of a live audience...

They really did very well and are a credit to their trainers...

It was enough to get people along to a Dojo... the rest is up to us...
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Old 03-20-2006, 04:54 PM   #5
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Train for three months... into bogu... compete on UK television and in front of a live audience...

They really did very well and are a credit to their trainers...

It was enough to get people along to a Dojo... the rest is up to us...
I agree with Crabbi... A recruitment opportunity, surely? A good time for beginners courses... but you`d need to be quick...
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Old 03-20-2006, 05:10 PM   #6
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It was good to see Kendo even **mentioned** on TV.....shame about the presenters - who I though were more suited to childrens programmes.

A great opportunity to get publicity for the art....I may even get my finger out and get back into training (work and health permitting) :-)
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Old 03-21-2006, 01:22 AM   #7
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I think the presenters did an excellent job of pitching it to the most likely group of viewers, eg people who know nothing about Kendo or possibly even MA, and who were watching "just for a laugh". Going on about it being "sacred" sounded a bit bollocksy but may have contributed to the typical viewer taking the whole idea a bit more seriously rather than just dismissing it as some weird Japanese thing. I'm only a beginner myself so can't really judge, but I did think that the second pair (eg just before the finalists) looked pretty good for people who'd only been doing it a short time.
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Old 03-21-2006, 01:41 AM   #8
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I agree with Crabbi... A recruitment opportunity, surely? A good time for beginners courses... but you`d need to be quick...
You're absolutely right there Don Don San...!!!

Great to hear from you... Your message box is full so I have sent a note to your ntl account... Is that still active?

All the best...
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Old 03-21-2006, 02:57 AM   #9
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It was very good to watch kendo on TV (For the first time) For the amount of time and training they had, i think they did pretty well.

It would be good to have more kendo on TV though, it was very entertaining

Is there any TV channels, i.e sport that broadcast kendo?

Thanks
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Old 03-21-2006, 03:00 AM   #10
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I thought the two finalists did great. I could have gone to Sheffield to watch, I think one of our crew did go down there and I was speaking to one of the coaches last Wednesday. Really, for a 30 min slot on telly they conveyed it as good as we could expect. I thought the contestants got into the spirit even if some of the footwork and rei was a bit ropey (I'm thinking of the poor sonkyo) Jamie Theakson and that other bloke would have ruined it were it not for the contestants.

If it brings people to the dojo, even just to have a look see then great the BKA has done it's job.

Tim.
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Old 03-21-2006, 04:20 AM   #11
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Hey, that's a nice men-uchi... but where did they find those funky dou??

http://www.channel4.com/entertainmen...le.jsp?id=1025
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Old 03-21-2006, 04:26 AM   #12
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for those of you who missed it or don't live in the UK you too can enjoy the pai...the games

http://www.channel4.com/entertainmen...2006/video.jsp

i haven't watched it yet, i'm bracing myself for it now :|
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Old 03-21-2006, 06:07 AM   #13
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I drove down to Sheffield last night and watched 'The Games' live. OK, the 10 match round robin heats were held in the day, so there was only 2 x 2 minute Semi finals and a 3 minute final, BUT, it was reasonably entertaining.

What you didn't see on the TV was the pre-match 'entertainment' - 5 Kendoka from the Halifax dojo, including 3 GB squad Kendoka. Here the crowd got to see a few drills by experienced practitioners. There was quite a buzz!

Hopefully the crowd picked up on the fact that scoring is much more than just landing a firm hit on your opponent - I had to educate the crowd behind me on the need for synchrony of Kiai, front leg stamp and hitting to Men/Kote/Do.

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Old 03-21-2006, 06:45 AM   #14
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The games re-lit my fire, I used to practice 17 years ago in the midlands, and have looked a few times into a dojo near me now in the southwest. The nearest was always in South Wales, and now I see there is one in Bristol just down the road, and they train on Tuesdays....thats tomorrow, have i still gut the guts, i definately have the GUT..
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Old 03-21-2006, 07:00 AM   #15
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i wish kendo was on t.v. here so i'd have something good to watch..i guess for now i'll settle for watching whatever is on the internet
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Old 03-21-2006, 08:11 AM   #16
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i agree they did do well for only training for three months, though they were getting very close and missing obvious targets. but then they are only 3 kendo months old.
i probably looked worse than that after 6 months.

but samYurai?
since when has samurai had a y in the middle.
the commentators remind me of those that do the olympics and talk bollox over a sport they know nothing about.
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Old 03-21-2006, 10:39 AM   #17
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Yay! The people who went were Gareth Mason, Mark Halls, Gary O Donnell, Keith Rose and Andy Fisher....
Not that Ginger B*stard?!

The Games, in my opinion has provided something that Kendo is severly lacking in, public attention. Who cares if the celebs weren't that great at it, how many times do you tell somebody you do kendo and they say "what the hell is that? ive never heard of it!"? at least with a little exposure more people will know at least what it is!

All of the guys did brilliantly! they told me that they've only had 4 sessions of Kendo!And Adam R. had only had 1!! i've seen people in british taikai that have worse kendo than some of them, especially Jade (the guy in green) he is pretty natural.

As for the commentators i dont know i didnt see it on tv cause i was there at the arena.

I think it actually portrayed kendo in a positive way, you have to remember that the average joe, hasn't a clue what good kamae, foot work or zanshin is anyway!So they wont criticise it for that! Like crabbi said, if it gets people into the dojo its a good thing.

ps. the bougu came from emaishop (eikobudogu UK)
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Old 03-21-2006, 11:24 AM   #18
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Just to reinforce my point

i am the email contact for details about my club, i usually get 2-3 inquirys a month.

Today i have recieved 6 already. How can that be bad?
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Old 03-21-2006, 02:18 PM   #19
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All of the guys did brilliantly! they told me that they've only had 4 sessions of Kendo!And Adam R. had only had 1!! i've seen people in british taikai that have worse kendo than some of them, especially Jade (the guy in green) he is pretty natural.

As for the commentators i dont know i didnt see it on tv cause i was there at the arena.
Wow... with those time constraints in mind they did brilliantly...!!!

Remember that this wasn't a Martial Arts documentary... it was designed as entertainment for the masses...

In light of this I believe that all of the Kendoka involved did us proud... they maintained a dignified presentation of Kendo whilst providing a very exciting spectacle for the public...

As I said previously ... what we do with the interest that has been generated is up to us... let's not waste it...!

The commentating has come under scrutiny in this thread... I think that it walked the narrow line between information and entertainment very well... All of the target areas were given their correct names and by the end of the programme the shouts of Doh, Men and Kote would have been familiar to even the most casual viewer.

Salmon Sensei was on hand for the commentary, Honda Sensei was refereeing and Budden Sensei was giving last minute coaching and encouragement to the participants... The BKA was well represented...!

Let's not criticise this event... as Andy said, this sort of publicity is rare for Kendo... Let's maximise this opportunity for the good of all of us...
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Old 03-21-2006, 02:48 PM   #20
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Well. I disagree.
As with Stephanie, I had to defend kendo several times today. "Is *that* what you do?".

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