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**+++Poguru+++** · 07-21-2006, 06:59 PM

is that naginata? wow...

in the old days, there were no videos. so if a baby wanted to learn, his/her mother would have to teach it.

**Joesred** · 07-21-2006, 07:51 PM

Yamauchi sensei once said that you must move with the feeling of having your family on your back. You would not want to move around clumsily and have you family fall off. However, I had no idea that this was to be taken literally...

**Zarekylin75** · 07-21-2006, 07:56 PM

Isn't that a little risky? What if she fell on her back? Yeah, she *shouldn't*, but if she did...

**Atmotteenrift** · 07-21-2006, 08:45 PM

I've seen quite a few naginata practices at the Yokohama Budokan. This particular group did only kata. Obviously there is more to it, but this particular group only did the kata on the nights they practiced there so I don't think it is as dangerous as it looks.

**Tainlyferfara** · 07-21-2006, 08:52 PM

Never Mess With Mommy! This Is The Lesson Here!!

**soonahonsefalh** · 07-21-2006, 10:06 PM

is that naginata? wow...

in the old days, there were no videos. so if a baby wanted to learn, his/her mother would have to teach it.

ummm.... firstly, you wouldnt teach a kid anything by strapping it to your back. Secondly, they never have, never do and never will teach naginata or anything else by videos.

**VawSwaspamups** · 07-22-2006, 12:30 AM

hehe ... good picture.. never too early to start training

**SnareeWer** · 07-22-2006, 01:31 AM

That looks so cool.

**Galvanoidum** · 07-22-2006, 07:36 AM

So long as she isn't using the kid as a doh for her back, it's alright with me.

**agiopwer** · 07-22-2006, 07:54 AM

Who knows? Perhaps the kid is using her as a doh for the front?

**Dyerryjex** · 07-22-2006, 08:14 AM

Who knows? Perhaps the kid is using her as a doh for the front?

Yes! Mother: 3kyu, baby: 8dan hanshi.

**cjOTw7ov** · 07-22-2006, 10:29 AM

i'm no expert on naginata but i'm pretty certain that this is being done for tradition's sake, as in VERY traditional. back in the day women learned to use naginata to protect their families from thieves/ronin. these people were often farming families and the women strap the babies to their back while they would work the fields. so combining these two ideas, you couldn't effectively fend off an attacker with a baby strapped to your back unless you practiced fending off attacks with a baby on your back. so they would train with babies on their backs.

just an educated guess.

**apatteopipt** · 07-22-2006, 11:09 AM

That picture is actually from the book "Old School" by Ellis Amdur. They have the article, Women Warriors of Japan, that this picture came from on the internet at Koryu.com ... http://koryu.com/library/wwj5.html#Women

Good article, and Amdur sensei is a good writer. Worth reading.

**Teprophopay** · 07-22-2006, 12:05 PM

Can't get under foot when they're straped to your back. Probably the ONLY way to defend your child successfully if you are surrounded/outnumbered and caught in the field. If she set baby down then the baby could be used against her.

**Helloheshess** · 07-26-2006, 12:33 PM

Would be funnier if it was a papoose.

**nemoforone** · 07-26-2006, 12:53 PM

I used to teach at the U of WA with my son on my back in a carrier. You just have to make sure you do not overswing. It is no big deal if you are just teaching.

One of my students had a picture of it in his wedding reception slide show. I had forgot about it.

07-21-2006, 06:59 PM	#1
+++Poguru+++ Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 592 Senior Member	What do you think about... is that naginata? wow... in the old days, there were no videos. so if a baby wanted to learn, his/her mother would have to teach it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-21-2006, 07:51 PM	#2
Joesred Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 481 Senior Member	Yamauchi sensei once said that you must move with the feeling of having your family on your back. You would not want to move around clumsily and have you family fall off. However, I had no idea that this was to be taken literally... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Zarekylin75 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	Isn't that a little risky? What if she fell on her back? Yeah, she shouldn't, but if she did... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-21-2006, 08:45 PM	#4
Atmotteenrift Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 495 Senior Member	I've seen quite a few naginata practices at the Yokohama Budokan. This particular group did only kata. Obviously there is more to it, but this particular group only did the kata on the nights they practiced there so I don't think it is as dangerous as it looks. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Tainlyferfara Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 500 Senior Member	Never Mess With Mommy! This Is The Lesson Here!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-21-2006, 10:06 PM	#6
soonahonsefalh Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 603 Senior Member	is that naginata? wow... in the old days, there were no videos. so if a baby wanted to learn, his/her mother would have to teach it. ummm.... firstly, you wouldnt teach a kid anything by strapping it to your back. Secondly, they never have, never do and never will teach naginata or anything else by videos. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-22-2006, 12:30 AM	#7
VawSwaspamups Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 487 Senior Member	hehe ... good picture.. never too early to start training Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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SnareeWer Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 402 Senior Member	That looks so cool. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Galvanoidum Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 485 Senior Member	So long as she isn't using the kid as a doh for her back, it's alright with me. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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agiopwer Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 441 Senior Member	Who knows? Perhaps the kid is using her as a doh for the front? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Dyerryjex Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 727 Senior Member	Who knows? Perhaps the kid is using her as a doh for the front? Yes! Mother: 3kyu, baby: 8dan hanshi. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-22-2006, 10:29 AM	#12
cjOTw7ov Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 450 Senior Member	i'm no expert on naginata but i'm pretty certain that this is being done for tradition's sake, as in VERY traditional. back in the day women learned to use naginata to protect their families from thieves/ronin. these people were often farming families and the women strap the babies to their back while they would work the fields. so combining these two ideas, you couldn't effectively fend off an attacker with a baby strapped to your back unless you practiced fending off attacks with a baby on your back. so they would train with babies on their backs. just an educated guess. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-22-2006, 11:09 AM	#13
apatteopipt Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 392 Senior Member	That picture is actually from the book "Old School" by Ellis Amdur. They have the article, Women Warriors of Japan, that this picture came from on the internet at Koryu.com ... http://koryu.com/library/wwj5.html#Women Good article, and Amdur sensei is a good writer. Worth reading. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-22-2006, 12:05 PM	#14
Teprophopay Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 523 Senior Member	Can't get under foot when they're straped to your back. Probably the ONLY way to defend your child successfully if you are surrounded/outnumbered and caught in the field. If she set baby down then the baby could be used against her. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Helloheshess Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 535 Senior Member	Would be funnier if it was a papoose. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-26-2006, 12:53 PM	#16
nemoforone Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 401 Senior Member	I used to teach at the U of WA with my son on my back in a carrier. You just have to make sure you do not overswing. It is no big deal if you are just teaching. One of my students had a picture of it in his wedding reception slide show. I had forgot about it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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